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Woman gets 10 Years in Prison for Selling $30 Worth of Weed in Oklahoma

GVC said:
Might as well generalize this statement to the whole damn country.

There are more arrests in America for simple possession of marijuana (that is, without the intent to sell) than ALL violent crimes combined.

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There are more arrests in America for simple possession of marijuana (that is, without the intent to sell) than ALL violent crimes combined.


The War on Drugs is a scam. It destroys individuals and families, supports and promotes violent organized crime, and is ridiculously expensive. It is, as a part of the growing Prison Industrial Complex in America, the biggest reason I now feel I cannot return to America, my home. I will gladly pay for what some might consider exorbitant social programs to live free in Canada and avoid having to support the authoritarian war/prison machine in America.

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Not to mention that petty criminals are competition for much bigger crimes going on in the growth industry of drugs. If you're a small gang or individual pushing drugs, the government is going to try and take you down. If you're Los Zetas or Al Qaeda, they are going to fund you to cause problems. That's how ****ed up this world is.
 
Your neg rep was for being a wussy about staying in the all great Canada. How about you come out of the woods and do something about what you feel is an injustice in our society instead of whining about it and living in Canada.
 
TheDude said:
Your neg rep was for being a wussy about staying in the all great Canada. How about you come out of the woods and do something about what you feel is an injustice in our society instead of whining about it and living in Canada.
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Because, for the time being, I prefer living in Canada. As a citizen of both countries, it is my right to do so.

And, FWIW, I have involved myself in ending cannabis prohibition.

So maybe you should shut the **** up.
 
The US has 2.3 million people behind bars, more than any other country in the world. China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison.

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I was at 7-11 the other day. A person who works at a nursing home was in there with with his two kids and he bought a 30pack of natural light. Now I figure buying a 30pack means he had an intent to distribute. No need to prove that intent in a court of law based on any actual evidence. The simple fact that he was buying 30 beers is all the evidence we need to know that he's a beer dealer. So I wonder, how many years in prison should he serve? How much better would society be if we took him and as many people like him that we can find and put them in prison? Or are we better off just shaking our heads if we think what he's doing is bad and make the determination to make better choices in our own lives?
 
GVC said:
All the goverment has to do is legalize it, and regulate it like tobacco and alcohol, and this woman would be paying those taxes.
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You're missing the point. She is supposed to be paying the taxes regardless. The government shouldn't cave in to tax evaders. Also, if it was legalized I'm sure there would still be a huge black market for it.
 
Sloanfeld said:
You're missing the point. She is supposed to be paying the taxes regardless. The government shouldn't cave in to tax evaders. Also, if it was legalized I'm sure there would still be a huge black market for it.
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You know, maybe you're right. They should have nailed this big timer just like they got Capone!
 
Millsapa said:
Would they sell it in the pharmacy or would they have a pot isle to browse?
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I imagine it would depend. Most grocery stores keep the cigarettes in a cage of some sort and you sometimes have to use a specific checkout to buy them. I'd guess if it were legalized federally each state could regulate it as they saw fit. Some would probably restrict its sale for medical use only. Others might just require stores take measures to keep kids from getting it.

One thing I can tell you is that the world wouldn't end, society wouldn't fall, and crime rates would most likely stay the same minus all the pot related "crime" that currently takes place.
 
Sloanfeld said:
Also, if it was legalized I'm sure there would still be a huge black market for it.
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How's the black market for Cigarettes? Beer?

And, fwiw, the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University published this report (https://www.casacolumbia.org/articlefiles/380-2009%20Teen%20Survey%20Report.pdf), which, through a survey of teens, supports the notion that it's easier for teens to buy marijuana than it is for them to buy regulated substances (beer, tobacco, prescription drugs). For all the "protect our kids" folks (hopefully this includes all of us) who believe that legalizing and regulating marijuana would only put teens in harm's way, there's more than adequate evidence that they are being driven (and manipulated) by irrational fear alone.

It's amazing how we seem to have forgotten the failed experiment of alcohol prohibition. In that time, organized crime ruled the day, and lives were taken for what we can now buy at almost any corner store in the nation. Why we're so shocked at Mexican cartel violence, I don't know. The prohibition creates the crime.
 
Beantown said:
What if she was selling heroine? It comes from a plant too.
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Unless she was selling plutonium or anthrax or something like that the sentence would be far too excessive.

And heroin doesn't just come from a plant. There is a somewhate extensive chemical process to turn raw opium into heroin. With pot you just dry the plant out.
 
Nate505 said:
Unless she was selling plutonium or anthrax or something like that the sentence would be far too excessive.

And heroin doesn't just come from a plant. There is a somewhate extensive chemical process to turn raw opium into heroin. With pot you just dry the plant out.
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Ok Mr. Picky then what about Cociane, you dont even need to dry it out, you can just chew on the leaves.

Point is, just because something comes from a plant doesnt mean its good to have access to it. Many things that are natural and come from earth are not good for our bodies.
 
Beantown said:
Ok Mr. Picky then what about Cociane, you dont even need to dry it out, you can just chew on the leaves.

Point is, just because something comes from a plant doesnt mean its good to have access to it. Many things that are natural and come from earth are not good for our bodies.
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I think Cocaine would be alright if were legal. Sigmund Freud used to praise the hell out of the stuff.

I don't think you should use it if you have heart problems though, but you probably shouldn't use a lot of prescription drugs or even viagra if you have a heart problem.
 
Cocaine is an even worse example. It's a much more chemical involved process to make than turning opium to heroin is. The leaves you can chew, but everything I've read about them makes the experience similar to chewing tobacco. I have no clue why raw coca leaves are illegal (and they aren't in most South American countries), other than that someone might just buy them up and turn them into cocaine (even though my limited research tells me it takes 300 grams, or 2/3rds of a pound, of coca leaf to produce a single gram of cocaine).

I see nothing wrong with having access to any plant. The castor bean plant is perfectly legal in this country, yet its byproduct is ricin, an extremely deadly substance. Hemlock is legal too. For some reason, deadly plants are just fine to grow yet plants that contain psychoactive components are a big no no. From a theological perspective I have no idea why God would have created these plants if he didn't want people to have access to them.
 
Nate505 said:
Cocaine is an even worse example. It's a much more chemical involved process to make than turning opium to heroin is. The leaves you can chew, but everything I've read about them makes the experience similar to chewing tobacco. I have no clue why raw coca leaves are illegal (and they aren't in most South American countries), other than that someone might just buy them up and turn them into cocaine (even though my limited research tells me it takes 300 grams, or 2/3rds of a pound, of coca leaf to produce a single gram of cocaine).

I see nothing wrong with having access to any plant. The castor bean plant is perfectly legal in this country, yet its byproduct is ricin, an extremely deadly substance. Hemlock is legal too. For some reason, deadly plants are just fine to grow yet plants that contain psychoactive components are a big no no. From a theological perspective I have no idea why God would have created these plants if he didn't want people to have access to them.
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But the idea that because something comes from the ground and is "a plant" then its ok to digest into your body is ridiculously stupid.

There are countless plants that taken into the body would make you extremely sick or even kill you.

I am actually for legalization of weed. But the argument that it should be legal because "its a plant" is dumb.
 
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