Would we accept #4 for Gordon Hayward?

[green]

Hayward had a better season then last but dont over exaggerate it. If Hood would have stayed healthy he would have been the better 3 by far. Hayward disappears when the going get tough until he bricks the final shot.

Wasn't Hayward the second most clutch player behind Harden in the last 5 mins last year?

 

[fishonjazz]

If the Jazz had a winning record last year, Hayward would have had a good deal of buzz about being possible all star and may have even made the team. People only pay attention to the Jazz when they are winning. If Jazz get out the gate well next year, and Hayward maintains or improves his play, I guarantee there will be all star buzz about him. Looking at stats such as real +/- and WARP, Hayward was one of top 4-5 small forwards in the league last year.

Good post

 

[LogGrad98]

The top 4 player sin this draft have potential to be way better. Borderline allstar is nit what you shoot for with a top 4 pick. SMH at jzz fans over valuing Hayward again

So you are guaranteeing that all 4 of the top 4 picked in this draft, when you still really don't know for sure who that will be, will all be guaranteed all-stars. Ok. That would be the first time that has ever happened in the history of the NBA. Good call!

 

[da ThRONe]

Sorry, but you don't trade a "proven product" for potential. This isn't implying that Hayward is a superstar, but dude is certainly all-star caliber. Frankly, unless the kid we wound up drafting had a 100% trade-back guarantee, I wouldn't do it. Certainly not at #4.

Teams do this all the time. I understand why fans prefer not to gamble, but the notion that franchises don't do it all the time is completely false.

 

[royzzz]

Change up on the offer:
NY, Utah and Portland

NY trades: #4 pick plus filler
NY gets: LMA and #23

Portland trades: LMA and Lilard and #23 pick
Portland gets: #4, #12 and Burke

Utah trades: Burke and #12 plus second round picks
Utah gets: Lilard

Why? No reasonb.. just throwing out ideas

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

I agree. I love our team and think it has a really bright future. Do we have what it takes to win a championship? I have no clue. The thing the build-through-the-draft crowd need to remember, is that by urging this strategy, you have to have complete faith in your FO and entire organization. You need to believe that they will take the 4th best player in the draft with the 4th pick (at worst - if the teams before you botch their pick, you get an even better player). You also need to believe that you have the coaching crew that can maximize the talents of this player and the ability to build a team around him to put them in a position to succeed. Without these things, we could end up with a player like Wesley Johnson, Thomas Robinson or Evan Turner. Hayward is obviously a whole lot better than these dudes, but is he better than the average 4th best player of any draft?

Towns and Russell are the only two players that would be worth trading Hayward for IMO, and they won't make it to 4. I think Utah already has the foundation of a serious contender, and I definitely believe Hayward will be a big part of that. Just how deep we go will depend on the additions/improvements made to the team, but I don't see Hayward as a piece that needs upgraded. Let's add to the core and see how much we can improve before we decide to switch out any of the main pieces. I think our second half of the season is reason enough to wait and see what we have before make decisions like that

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Change up on the offer:
NY, Utah and Portland

NY trades: #4 pick plus filler
NY gets: LMA and #23

Portland trades: LMA and Lilard and #23 pick
Portland gets: #4, #12 and Burke

Utah trades: Burke and #12 plus second round picks
Utah gets: Lilard

Why? No reasonb.. just throwing out ideas

This is a no brainer for the Jazz, but you are apparently assuming the Portland GM will have a brain fart of epic proportions.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

Life as a Jazz-fan would be pretty sweet right now if we did this trade and had a front court of Gobert, Favors and Porzingis.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

I would take Poz and a lottery pick in the top 5 for Hayward and the #30. Maybe...

Too bad NY doesn't have a lotter pick in the top 5.

But I still think we gave away the best player in the deal for potential...