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Would you rather have us in the playoffs or getting better draft picks?

Playoffs or draft glory?

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    36
The Thriller said:
What does Dante do well?

And let’s fece it, he’s now lost 2 seasons due to injury. Is that something we can depend on?
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Hes not greatly skilled and I dont think hes a good enough shooter or passer to be on the receiving end of Quins advantage basketball system. Im with you there. But Dante is fast and long enough that he could be a great initiator. Collapsing the D and get everyone moving.
 
The Thriller said:
What does Dante do well?

And let’s fece it, he’s now lost 2 seasons due to injury. Is that something we can depend on?
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Let's leave Rodney out of this.

Dante absolutely killed it this summer against some good talent. He was Quin's whipping-boy last year and still showed exciting form at times. He's way to unproven to give up on.

2017 Points Leaders
1. Bryn Forbes SAS 21.3
2. Markelle Fultz PHI 20.0
3. Dante Exum UTA 20.0
4. Jayson Tatum BOS 18.7
5. Jaylen Brown BOS 17.5
2017 Rebound Leaders
1. Jaylen Brown BOS 10.5
2. Jayson Tatum BOS 9.7
3. Cory Jefferson SAS 7.3
4. Isaiah Miles PHI 7.0
5. Julian Wright UTA 6.5
2017 Assist Leaders
1. Dante Exum UTA 6.3
2. Larry Drew II PHI 5.0
3. Dejounte Murray SAS 4.5
4. Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot PHI 4.0
5. Donovan Mitchell UTA 3.3
 
Carbon13 said:
Hes not greatly skilled and I dont think hes a good enough shooter or passer to be on the receiving end of Quins advantage basketball system. Im with you there. But Dante is fast and long enough that he could be a great initiator. Collapsing the D and get everyone moving.
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His ballhanding, lack of aggression, and inability to stay healthy put into doubt whether he’ll ever be able to collapse an nba defense consistently.

I’m not saying cut him now. What I’m saying is we should plan on moving from him in the next offseason.
 
str8line said:
Let's leave Rodney out of this.

Dante absolutely killed it this summer against some good talent. He was Quin's whipping-boy last year and still showed exciting form at times. He's way to unproven to give up on.

2017 Points Leaders
1. Bryn Forbes SAS 21.3
2. Markelle Fultz PHI 20.0
3. Dante Exum UTA 20.0
4. Jayson Tatum BOS 18.7
5. Jaylen Brown BOS 17.5
2017 Rebound Leaders
1. Jaylen Brown BOS 10.5
2. Jayson Tatum BOS 9.7
3. Cory Jefferson SAS 7.3
4. Isaiah Miles PHI 7.0
5. Julian Wright UTA 6.5
2017 Assist Leaders
1. Dante Exum UTA 6.3
2. Larry Drew II PHI 5.0
3. Dejounte Murray SAS 4.5
4. Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot PHI 4.0
5. Donovan Mitchell UTA 3.3
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Summer
League

How’s he done in the nba? Where it really counts and there’s an 82 game season?

Showing how Dante dominated more than Mitchell actually hurts your argument, not helps it.
 
I trust Lindsey at identifying talent and making moves to acquire it. Like he did with Rudy and Donovan and by many accounts, Kawhi. So i say playoffs. That said, I think the Jazz have a solid amount of talent and a good coach. Our problem is one of our most talented players is an antiquated 4. I think if we can modernize our offense, we will see a big jump in production.
 
The Thriller said:
His ballhanding, lack of aggression, and inability to stay healthy put into doubt whether he’ll ever be able to collapse an nba defense consistently.

I’m not saying cut him now. What I’m saying is we should plan on moving from him in the next offseason.
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Interesting. I am a bit more optimistic but I can see where you are coming from. I am looking forward to seeing at least one more season from him. He has some elite skills I like.
 
The Thriller said:
What are these elite skills if you don’t mind me asking?
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His quickness to size ratio is primarily it. There really arent many players like Dante that have his quickness and size. Thats really why he was drafted at 5 in my opinion. He definitely has some shoddy skills, I dont deny that. But so does half the Spurs roster. I think a lot of coaching Dante will be mitigating hos faults and emphasizing his strengths, of which Dante definitely has some. As a franchise, we arent LA, we will have to be resourceful and I think making Dante into a player is not out of the question.

That said, what are your thoughts? Do you think Dante is quick for his size? Maybe it doesnt matter if hes just not good enough haha
 
The Thriller said:
What are these elite skills if you don’t mind me asking?
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If you watched summer league it's not even a question that Dante has improved a lot. He was coming off a knee injury all last season and wasn't ready mentally or physically. Add to that Quin's mind-****ing and you have a player who underperformed. The real Dante was on display in summer league and he was mighty impressive. He was aggressive and it seemed like he was a step ahead of everyone else.
 
If I could get a top 5 pick, I'd do that. If it's the choice between pick 10-14 or playoffs, I'd pick playoffs.
 
str8line said:
If you watched summer league it's not even a question that Dante has improved a lot. He was coming off a knee injury all last season and wasn't ready mentally or physically. Add to that Quin's mind-****ing and you have a player who underperformed. The real Dante was on display in summer league and he was mighty impressive. He was aggressive and it seemed like he was a step ahead of everyone else.
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I was at several of the SL games this year. Just because we have different opinions doesn’t mean I didn’t watch the games.
 
Carbon13 said:
His quickness to size ratio is primarily it. There really arent many players like Dante that have his quickness and size. Thats really why he was drafted at 5 in my opinion. He definitely has some shoddy skills, I dont deny that. But so does half the Spurs roster. I think a lot of coaching Dante will be mitigating hos faults and emphasizing his strengths, of which Dante definitely has some. As a franchise, we arent LA, we will have to be resourceful and I think making Dante into a player is not out of the question.

That said, what are your thoughts? Do you think Dante is quick for his size? Maybe it doesnt matter if hes just not good enough haha
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I honestly don’t see any elite skills. His physical gifts are irrelevant since he doesn’t have the ballhandling skills to exploit nba defenses or the health to stay on the court.
 
We're still an impact player away from contending & although DL has shown the ability to find talent outside of the lottery, you still have to play the odds IMO. The higher the draft pick, the better.
 
The Thriller said:
I honestly don’t see any elite skills. His physical gifts are irrelevant since he doesn’t have the ballhandling skills to exploit nba defenses or the health to stay on the court.
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Ah ok, i hear ya. He definitely is not a great ball handler and doesnt seem to handle the second level of defense that well imo
 
Playoffs. Of course i voted on what i would like to see the jazz do from a fan perspective.
If i were the GM then maybe i would vote differently.
Since i am fan its playoffs and its not even close.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I have this sneaking feeling the Jazz could actually be players in 2019 free agency if the Jazz make the right moves to preserve cap while simultaneously being a good team and revered organization.

So, playoffs.

Additionally, I just don't see the Jazz sucking enough to get a top-10 pick. So they might as well make the playoffs at that point in my mind. And hell, if they can get healthy and can resolve this Rubio/Favors roster debacle, they could maybe even make a little noise.
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So jettison Hood or Exum, because signing both means no significant cap space. I guess signing just one, then the Jazz have Burks' and Rubio's salaries come off the books. Of course, that also assumes Utah does nothing to address the oozing hole at PF for next year (Favs and JJ would be gone), so you'd have Jerebko and Thabo man the 4?

I'd rather have a good draft pick.
 
fishonjazz said:
Playoffs. Of course i voted on what i would like to see the jazz do from a fan perspective.
If i were the GM then maybe i would vote differently.
Since i am fan its playoffs and its not even close.
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Str8line did say in the OP 'What would you do if you were a Jazz GM' though... so your vote should have actually been the draft pick.
 
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