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Your ideal Lauri trade package?

You need picks that are in the lottery because they odds are higher for a top 3 pick now than ever. I doubt any of the 2025 picks will be lottery picks due to protections. There is a very outside chance that Ime Udoku meets Flipowski's lady and gets dominated in a unique afair and he gets fired and Houston sucks again. Miami could fetch 15 best case. Clippers could have PG leave, Harden and Kawhi get hurt and could potentially be a lottery pick. But it's not likely. OKC's pick isn't there.

I like the 2027 Clippers swap.

Denver by 2029 is worth a gamble. But otherwise we are taking a lot of empty calorie picks.

Any trade for Lauri with OKC requires some of their current pieces. Lugen Dortz, Isaiah Joe, Kenrich Williams, Cason Wallace, and Nikola Topic are all interesting enough but I don't see the value.
 
Jaanipoeg said:
Do you get traded in a Lauri trade (you're a Finn right)?

Really appreciate your cap knowledge and insight
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Haha. Likely not. I was a Jazz fan back in the 90s before Lauri was even born. Wanted someone to dethrone the Bulls.

But you never know if that kills the spark.

Besides, HH and EH are much better with the cap and CBA than me.
 
Rockets are the best partner because of the 2 Suns picks in 2027 and 2029, pick swaps rights for Brooklyn in 2027, along with lots of young talent. I like:

Tari Eason
Sengun
Jabari Smith
Green
Tate

Houston can be dangerous for years with Maarkanen being added in to the fold.
 
~the Bridges package. We can take a little less and/or take back bad salary.

Maybe the way to get something bigger back from whoever is to include Kessler as some kind of security/sweetener on value for win now teams (considering that at present Lauri is an expiring contract). An excellent rim protector on a rookie scale salary is highly useful for a team looking to keep the payroll under control.

Someone tell us if a team that acquired him this summer could extend him at an appropriate number (extensions are not an area I know well, especially this CBA). If he can’t really be extended, trading him this off-season for a haul is out of the question.
 
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NUMBERICA said:
~the Bridges package. We can take a little less and/or take back bad salary.

Maybe the way to get something bigger back from whoever is to include Kessler as some kind of security/sweetener on value for win now teams (considering that at present Lauri is an expiring contract). An excellent rim protector on a rookie scale salary is highly useful for a team looking to keep the payroll under control.

Someone tell us if a team that acquired him this summer could extend him at an appropriate number (extensions are not an area I know well, especially this CBA). If he can’t really be extended, trading him this off-season for a haul is out of the question.
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Im pretty sure that no one can acquire and extend Lauri unless its a scaled extension which is capped at 113/4 for him.

R&E also requires you to use free cap space for the first year, which is why its rather rare to see.
 
I think we should trade him to the Jazz for like 100 1st round picks. It's a win win. We keep an elite player and we get to keep more 1st round picks than we know what to do with.

We can then try to make some moves to get better trading for great players with some of those picks. If that doesn't work out we just keep picking and hope those turn out or the ones we made in the last 2 years works out. It's not like we can keep adding 3 or more 1st round picks to the roster every year.
 
First I think Lauri will get his extension for this year and then next year for 4-5 years. That is the way to do it, then we can talk about the trade packages. If Lauri plays next year 60-70 games with all youth we have, then 25 wins is max. If Key, Cody and Taylor start the most games then maybe 20 wins is max. Utah will be really bad whole season and will get a high pick nevertheless if Lauri plays. By the way I like to draft Rocco more than Flagg.

My package is swap Lauri to OKC for JDub (+ fillers either way if necessary) and build around him.
 
I’d have a short list of teams. The Blazers and Spurs (probably) in the West. That’s it. Every other team has 45+ win potential. The Spurs could improve a lot this season but even with the addition of Lauri, I doubt it. The rest of the West is brutal with more proven commodities.

In the East, the Pistons, Wiz, and Hornets are all on the table.

Figure out which one of those teams (or a team who owns the rights to one of those teams unprotected picks) has a tradable young player and 1sts to trade in 2025 (that’s a must) and beyond and we’re talking.
 
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Sign Lauri. Trade with the Spurs. Keldon Johnson and Collins or Graham and picks: their own 2025 unprotected 1st and the 2025 Hawks unprotected 1st they own. Shoot for a 2028 lottery protected 1st too. But that’s not necessary. Getting the two 2025 unprotected as is invaluable. Especially since that Hawks team could implode imo.
 
Keefe said:
Sign Lauri. Trade with the Spurs. Keldon Johnson and Collins or Graham and picks: their own 2025 unprotected 1st and the 2025 Hawks unprotected 1st they own. Shoot for a 2028 lottery protected 1st too. But that’s not necessary. Getting the two 2025 unprotected as is invaluable. Especially since that Hawks team could implode imo.
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off youre overvaluaing Keldon
 
Okc built back up quickly because they traded PG for Shai. Plus, they drafted REALLY well and hit on Jaylen Williams. Then they got the 2nd pick luck and added Chet.

Pacers nabbed Haliburton for Sabonis. Huge upgrade even though it didn't look like it at the time. That foresight gave them a solid playoff run and many more to come.

The point being is everyone assumes Houston or OKC because of their draft capital. But I think betting on the next Shai or Haliburton is probably the bigger prize because we already have the draft capital.

Who are the best young players you would want to build around besides Wemby? Are there other top 10 NBA players that are young that we could snag now instead of a draft pick heavy return? Of course draft picks will be part of any deal.
 
The Mikal Bridges deal looks insane but many of those picks are empty calorie picks. The Nets getting back their own 2025 and 2026 picks was their biggest asset. They didn't get any blue chip prospect though.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Okc built back up quickly because they traded PG for Shai. Plus, they drafted REALLY well and hit on Jaylen Williams. Then they got the 2nd pick luck and added Chet.

Pacers nabbed Haliburton for Sabonis. Huge upgrade even though it didn't look like it at the time. That foresight gave them a solid playoff run and many more to come.

The point being is everyone assumes Houston or OKC because of their draft capital. But I think betting on the next Shai or Haliburton is probably the bigger prize because we already have the draft capital.

Who are the best young players you would want to build around besides Wemby? Are there other top 10 NBA players that are young that we could snag now instead of a draft pick heavy return? Of course draft picks will be part of any deal.
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I definitely wouldn't mind getting back a young blue chip, if possible. But the current contenders like Denver, Milwaukee, OKC, etc. were mainly built mostly be drafting well and we need dart throws. Big game hunting is an ancillary thing and it's better to keep the powder dry for such a move. If OKC is gearing up for a Lauri trade, getting our pick back would be numeral uno priority simply because we will have everything open at that point.
 
I think its notable its being reported. None of this reporting happens by accident. You have to ask yourself, “why am i hearing about this now?”
 
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rippimpc said:
I think its notable its being reported. None of this reporting happens by accident. You have to ask yourself, “why am i hearing about this now?”
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This is a good question. In addition to signaling to other teams “hey we will listen if you want to get wild”… Lauri likely wants to sign the extension… they are negotiating it most likely… if we trade him he doesn’t get extension… this could partly be leverage in those discussions or at very least getting him and his team to definitively signal they want to be here if they haven’t already. If he’s doing a “maybe I won’t sign if you are going to be doggy doodoo” then we do a “we gonna do what we need to and maybe we listen to offers and you can hit FA next year if you don’t want to be here”.

In other words… our favorite offseason word… leverage.

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rippimpc said:
I think its notable its being reported. None of this reporting happens by accident. You have to ask yourself, “why am i hearing about this now?”
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We have not just heard of this now. This is an ongoing favourite trade speculation topic since late 2022 when the rumor factory guys realized Lauri is pretty good.

Media just identifies Jazz as a bad team and Lauri as a good player, and count 1+1.

Woj, Windy and lots of others have said we are not expected to move him, but should listen to offers.
 
HermanG said:
We have not just heard of this now. This is an ongoing favourite trade speculation topic since late 2022 when the rumor factory guys realized Lauri is pretty good.

Media just identifies Jazz as a bad team and Lauri as a good player, and count 1+1.

Woj, Windy and lots of others have said we are not expected to move him, but should listen to offers.
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I don’t think he is moved but I get why people here think it’s more possible. This is similar to the messaging we heard around Don and Rudy before they were moved. Maybe not Rudy but definitely Don.

Still think it’s like 5% chance. But we know Danny say that Bridges trade and likely got a bit horny.
 
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