You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

[framer]

Here's my biggest issue with Conley (and I've love to hear a counter argument to it). Conley has two years left on his deal. When that deal is done Conley will be 34 years old and his career will likely be about over. Meaning he won't be a top guy for the Jazz to resign. They'll also likely have Mitchell on a max deal that point and Rudy on a supermax deal, meaning there will be 0 cap space. There likely won't be any potential all star players whose bird rights the Jazz have. That basically hand cuffs the Jazz and leaves no real free agency options.

Finding a guy in free agency this year whether it's an all star like D Lo or two younger potentially impact players, at least that would lock them up for longer and then give us Bird rights to them to potentially resign those players when we don't have any cap space.

Except for Max contracts, at the end, also deal with an expanding salary cap. Conley's contract, when he signed, was viewed as a contract killer. Now, it's big, but not bloated. The max for Mitchell is going to be affordable. Gobert is going to be sizeable, but we will see what he actually demands. If things are going poorly, Gobert or Mitchell will be tradeable. If you are going to be over the cap it is good to have star players. Imagine being the Wizards or the Suns.

 

[infection]

If getting Conley forces our hand on finding another 4 option, landing Jabari could be a pretty big deal as he can very well be a 20 ppg guy for us (he previously has been such) and in two years when Conley expires, Jabari May very well be a core player for us, so I’d rather roll the dice on that than try to maintain some type of perceived flexibility.

Use whatever assets necessary to get Conley and then hope Jabari signs.

 

[David Stern]

If getting Conley forces our hand on finding another 4 option, landing Jabari could be a pretty big deal as he can very well be a 20 ppg guy for us (he previously has been such) and in two years when Conley expires, Jabari May very well be a core player for us, so I’d rather roll the dice on that than try to maintain some type of perceived flexibility.

Use whatever assets necessary to get Conley and then hope Jabari signs.

If we traded Favors and Korver plus picks for Conley, we'd end up with about $7.5 Million in cap space. Maybe they dump Crowder to free up around $15.5 million for a second-tier free agent? They'd also still have the MLE of almost $9 million. That would be interesting.

 

[mellow]

Has this been posted? Interesting take on the Jazz from an outsider perspective:

Two things stand out as needs for the Jazz: One, with the news that re-signing Ricky Rubio is likely not going to happen, the path is clear for Donovan Mitchell to assume full control of the offense, and given his sporadic shooting and hard-driving ways, surrounding him with as many floor spacers as possible would make sense. It would be nice if those shooters doubled as front-court players to address Utah's lack of depth in that area, and also, perhaps, give them and ability to play different lineups when Rudy Gobert isn't working as quite such a dominant force in certain matchups.

Nic Claxton out of Georgia is a nice backup option and complement to Gobert at center. He should be a more versatile defender on the perimeter than Gobert, and he can step out and shoot in a way Gobert can't. I also think Cameron Johnson, who we've talked about a lot in this range, makes sense. So does a guy like Grant Williams, who a lot of casual fans became familiar with during Tennessee's NCAA Tournament run. Williams is a beast at 6-8 and rock solid, and he can shoot it and handle himself on the perimeter.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Utah traded this pick along with maybe Dante Exum -- or perhaps Derrick Favors if they pick up his options with the intent to move -- to jump up in the draft order.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2019-breaking-down-biggest-needs-potential-trades-best-prospect-fits-for-all-30-teams/​

 

[infection]

If we traded Favors and Korver plus picks for Conley, we'd end up with about $7.5 Million in cap space. Maybe they dump Crowder to free up around $15.5 million for a second-tier free agent? They'd also still have the MLE of almost $9 million. That would be interesting.

If it were up to me (it isn’t), I’d be making them take Exum and keeping Korver. If we could land Conley, Jabari, and Dedmon, we’re in business.

 

[NAOS]

You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

I'd be sitting back, cashing my checks, and waiting for Tony Bradley to dominate opposing bench units.

Oh, and Exum stuff.

 

[margodydek]

Trade Rudy for Bradley Beal, then sign Horford.

 

[LoPo]

I don't see how we get Russell as a FA. I think Nets do a sign/trade with someone.

If we let Indy trade for Conley, then Brooklyn signs Kyrie and another, then Russell is sitting there. Clippers are building around SAG. Russell could go play with Doncic but hopefully Donovan has more pull. NY has Smith Jr. Atlanta has Trae. Kings have Fox. He won't go back to the Lakers.

I like our chances

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[mdalby]

If we let Indy trade for Conley, then Brooklyn signs Kyrie and another, then Russell is sitting there. Clippers are building around SAG. Russell could go play with Doncic but hopefully Donovan has more pull. NY has Smith Jr. Atlanta has Trae. Kings have Fox. He won't go back to the Lakers.
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Why wouldn't the Suns go for Russell?

 

[infection]

Conley > DLo.
SidLowe even > DLo.

 

[Miggs]

If getting Conley forces our hand on finding another 4 option, landing Jabari could be a pretty big deal as he can very well be a 20 ppg guy for us (he previously has been such) and in two years when Conley expires, Jabari May very well be a core player for us, so I’d rather roll the dice on that than try to maintain some type of perceived flexibility.

Use whatever assets necessary to get Conley and then hope Jabari signs.

Jabari is a legit asset too so far as value/talent to cost ratio. Obviously he may not mature and continue to not give a **** on d but he showed signs of improving last year.

And we need legit assets.

 

[prodigy]

Conley > DLo.
SidLowe even > DLo.

Former WWE Wrestler D'Lo Brown > DLo

 

[TheStormofWar]

Jabari is a legit asset to so far as value/talent to cost ratio. Obviously he may not mature and continue to not give a **** on d but he showed signs of improving last year.

And we need legit assets.

Jabari might be good for the MLE, but only if WA doesn't pick up his option. No chance in Hell, Michigan that the Jazz trade for him.

 

[David Stern]

You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

I'd be sitting back, cashing my checks, and waiting for Tony Bradley to dominate opposing bench units.

Oh, and Exum stuff.

You forgot the part where you give yourself a promotion

 

[Ron Mexico]

Conley > DLo.
SidLowe even > DLo.

Comparing them at 22 its not close that DLo is light years ahead of where he was at that age.

Comparing them based on last season its debatable their stats are very close.
https://www.basketball-reference.co...lect=Mike+Conley&player_id2=conlemi01&y2=2019

I would give the edge to Conley but barely.

Next season Conley will most likely be worse and his health is very concerning. He has had a lot of injuries and is slowing down.
Dlo should be improved and in a better system that will help him out. Plus Dlo is a better shooter which is very needed. He is also a taller guy next to Mitchell.

Plus we lock Dlo down for long term to pair him next to Mitchell that is a friend and the same age. They can grow together. 4 years from now we still have a much improved Mitchell and Dlo. The other option is not having Conley or having a 36 year old much worse version of him.

I would strongly prefer Dlo to Conley for those reasons. Plus we dont have to give up extra assests and we still have extra money to pick up other players. Its not really close for me.

That said Conley would be a solid pickup. But I would not give up more than Favors, Korver, and this years 1st. Exum on top of that or instead of Korver would be a no for me.

 

[SCS]

That's a good rotation especially if Exum can get and stay healthy and not suck (big if).

Not championship level but maybe wcf level and you never know what happens at that point. Maybe the jazz get hot for a series or the opponent goes cold or gets key injuries.


I would be very happy if that was our rotation next year.

Would still rather get Tobias, Malcom, Russell, etc in free agency but I would be good with the loss of favors and Rubio and addition of Conley and Niko. I think we would be a better team next season. Hell, just replacing Rubio with about anyone makes us better imo

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Exum would be gone in this scenario but I think that's okay because Neto is better anyway.

This would definitely be a winning move. I agree it probably doesn't make us a favorite. But it puts us right there in the hunt. And in the hunt is where you want to be. Look at Toronto. They weren't a favorite this year. They weren't even a favorite in their own conference. But they made moves like this to get in the hunt. Then they get hot, some things break their way and boom, champions. We need to be in a similar position. Especially when next season is looking so wide open.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

We in there

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

[/QUOTE]
They must think the lakers are getting AD.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Here's my biggest issue with Conley (and I've love to hear a counter argument to it). Conley has two years left on his deal. When that deal is done Conley will be 34 years old and his career will likely be about over. Meaning he won't be a top guy for the Jazz to resign. They'll also likely have Mitchell on a max deal that point and Rudy on a supermax deal, meaning there will be 0 cap space. There likely won't be any potential all star players whose bird rights the Jazz have. That basically hand cuffs the Jazz and leaves no real free agency options.

Finding a guy in free agency this year whether it's an all star like D Lo or two younger potentially impact players, at least that would lock them up for longer and then give us Bird rights to them to potentially resign those players when we don't have any cap space.

1. Donovan will be a RFA, his cap number in two years is pretty small until and unless he signs an offer. The Spurs were able to open a max slot by having Kawhi wait to sign his max deal that offseason. The Jazz could do the same.

2. Rudy doesn’t have to sign the extension in advance. There is also no law that he will require the supermax.

3. Conley likely expires that year as well (PO next offseason). Ingles and Exum also expire. The Jazz could actually have a ton of capspace in 2021.

 

[SCS]

If we traded Favors and Korver plus picks for Conley, we'd end up with about $7.5 Million in cap space. Maybe they dump Crowder to free up around $15.5 million for a second-tier free agent? They'd also still have the MLE of almost $9 million. That would be interesting.

We are losing too many rotation pieces in this scenario imo. It doesn't make any sense for us to lose Favors AND Crowder. Let Favs and Ricky go. Trade Exum's contract in the Conley deal. Keep Neto for cheap to replace Exum, he's better right now anyway. That should clear up enough money for a solid player.