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King Cy said:
Some real deep statistical analysis right there.

Why does anyone shoot 3 pointers? Why? Really we should only allow Hood and Hayward to shoot 3's. That way none of our not great shooters will waste shots on a shot they might miss. I mean who cares about stretching defense and keeping them honest to your perimeter players. I mean, big men don't need space on the interior to receive passes and dive to the rim, just let Burks man just dig in to the paint, no big deal.
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Yup probably should have gobert shoot a couple threes per game.

Really though. Burks is best attacking the rim. I don't want to let defenses off the hook by not needing to stop what he is best at.

Maybe start rodney, alec, and hayward.
Rodney and hayward can space the floor and you might be over reacting to how many threes he is taking per game so far this pre season. Kind of a small sample size don't ya think.

Last year Burks averaged 2.5 threes per game. Maybe just chill and realize it's not time to panic just yet
 
King Cy said:
So out of the 4 3point shots Burks has taken this pre-season, Quin had to literally yell at Burks for one of them. I think one of the other ones was at a half-time buzzer.
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Last year Burks averaged 2.5 attempts per game. Maybe this pre season is a small sample size and Burks will do exactly what you want. Of course we all know you would still bitch even if he were taking 4 per game anyway.

Try having a little patience
 
fishonjazz said:
Last year Burks averaged 2.5 attempts per game. Maybe this pre season is a small sample size and Burks will do exactly what you want. Of course we all know you would still bitch even if he were taking 4 per game anyway.

Try having a little patience
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If he took 4 and maintained even a 35% mark I would be the happiest camper alive.
 
Burks scored .81 points per 2-point FGA last season and 1.14 points per 3-point attempt last season.
Career: .91 per 2-point FGA, 1.07 per 3-point FGA
 
MDAV28 said:
Burks scored .81 points per 2-point FGA last season and 1.14 points per 3-point attempt last season.
Career: .91 per 2-point FGA, 1.07 per 3-point FGA
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Good find. Does that account for free throws as well?
 
fishonjazz said:
Yup probably should have gobert shoot a couple threes per game.

Really though. Burks is best attacking the rim. I don't want to let defenses off the hook by not needing to stop what he is best at.

Maybe start rodney, alec, and hayward.
Rodney and hayward can space the floor and you might be over reacting to how many threes he is taking per game so far this pre season. Kind of a small sample size don't ya think.

Last year Burks averaged 2.5 threes per game. Maybe just chill and realize it's not time to panic just yet
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No, I don't think it's a small sample size since it's a problem Burks has faced his entire NBA career. Not only does he face the problem of not shooting enough of his open 3's, he has also had run-ins with being overly predictable in the past with going to what is naturally comfortable. The biggest example of this outside of his reluctance to drop the long ball was his over-reliance on rejecting the pick in his 3rd year.

The thing is, passing up the 3 will work from time to time and he will make spectacular plays going to the rim. Over time though teams will realize Burks doesn't want to take that 3 and will end up sagging off him with soft close-outs. This is what I mean about it being a bad long-term decision and that he has to start taking some just to make the defense honest. He should be able to hit enough to do so if he just plays to his career averages from outside, but he has to increase the rate in which he takes them.
 
MDAV28 said:
Burks scored .81 points per 2-point FGA last season and 1.14 points per 3-point attempt last season.
Career: .91 per 2-point FGA, 1.07 per 3-point FGA
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Please dont try to argue with Fish. Alec Burks is God and doesn't need to shoot 3's even though it's been basically a proven fact you have to be a good 3pt shooting team to win.
 
King Cy said:
No, I don't think it's a small sample size since it's a problem Burks has faced his entire NBA career. Not only does he face the problem of not shooting enough of his open 3's, he has also had run-ins with being overly predictable in the past with going to what is naturally comfortable. The biggest example of this outside of his reluctance to drop the long ball was his over-reliance on rejecting the pick in his 3rd year.

The thing is, passing up the 3 will work from time to time and he will make spectacular plays going to the rim. Over time though teams will realize Burks doesn't want to take that 3 and will end up sagging off him with soft close-outs. This is what I mean about it being a bad long-term decision and that he has to start taking some just to make the defense honest. He should be able to hit enough to do so if he just plays to his career averages from outside, but he has to increase the rate in which he takes them.
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So would your plan to be to have Burks camp out on the three point line (where he is easy to guard) and wait for who exactly to drive and callapse the defense and kick out to him?
 
A huge example of this today problem to day was a play late in the game where Novak was guarding Burks. Novak was giving Burks at least 10 feet of space to take a 3 pointer and Burks just wildly drove into the paint and forced up a terrible attempt that wasn't even close. He has to take that 3 and make it at a respectable rate so teams know they can't just switch off Burks with a big man and have him drop way back and pack the paint.

The exact same starting scenario happened in Portland where Leonard was guarding him the same way and Burks took 1 dribble into a 23 foot long 2 point shot. Just take the 3
 
King Cy said:
Please dont try to argue with Fish. Alec Burks is God and doesn't need to shoot 3's even though it's been basically a proven fact you have to be a good 3pt shooting team to win.
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I actually told him good find. That was good info. I don't know if accounts for free throws as well though. Also, I have been watching specifically this season on Burks misses how many result in offensive rebounds resulting from the defense collapsing on his drives. I don't think those second chance points would be included in the stat be provided.

It is still good info though
MDAV28 said:
Burks scored .81 points per 2-point FGA last season and 1.14 points per 3-point attempt last season.
Career: .91 per 2-point FGA, 1.07 per 3-point FGA
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fishonjazz said:
Good find. Does that account for free throws as well?
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King Cy said:
A huge example of this today problem to day was a play late in the game where Novak was guarding Burks. Novak was giving Burks at least 10 feet of space to take a 3 pointer and Burks just wildly drove into the paint and forced up a terrible attempt that wasn't even close. He has to take that 3 and make it at a respectable rate so teams know they can't just switch off Burks with a big man and have him drop way back and pack the paint.

The exact same starting scenario happened in Portland where Leonard was guarding him the same way and Burks took 1 dribble into a 23 foot long 2 point shot. Just take the 3
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Do you think the jazz win tonight if Burks takes 3 three pointers?
 
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