"but I'm fully recovered now."

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Exum will still be one year younger than Stockton, Nash and Green were their rookie years this upcoming season.

Okay, here are all 60 NBA seasons played by a teenager who got over 800 minutes:

https://bkref.com/tiny/NUsgV

57 of them put up a PER above the so-called "replacement value" of 8.0, including Shaun Livingston (10.4). Three didn't come close: Exum, Tskitishvili, and Rashad Vaughn. Exum only managed HALF of what Livingston did as a teenage rookie. The point is, even compared to players the same age and experience level, Exum sucked. Sorry, it's true.

Hopefully Exum will pull his head out of his arse and play better going forward. But it seems like the odds are stacked against that happening.

 

[franklin]

PER also doesn't really measure defense, which is where Exum stood out.

With a defensive rating of 109 and the Jazz better defensively with him off the floor with their two best units? They were much better with Trey in their top starting 5 defensive rotation than with Exum. It's too bad 82games.com deletes stats every year so I couldn't throw them up one more time.

How long are you going to comfort yourself with this Exum is good at teh defense blankie?

 

[RandyForRubio]

With a defensive rating of 109 and the Jazz better defensively with him off the floor with their two best units? They were much better with Trey in their top starting 5 defensive rotation than with Exum. It's too bad 82games.com deletes stats every year so I couldn't throw them up one more time.

How long are you going to comfort yourself with this Exum is good at teh defense blankie?

If you go by DRPM, he was roughly neutral on defense. So compared to his poor offense, defense was where he stood out.

I'm not saying he was a great defensive player, but I think he did pretty well, all things considered. He has a lot to improve though to even be an ok starter.

 

[Siro]

It's pretty obvious Exum sucked. He stood in the corner doing nothing all year. He might develop into a very nice player, but he showed very little his rookie year.

 

[Douchebag K]

If you go by DRPM, he was roughly neutral on defense. So compared to his poor offense, defense was where he stood out.

I'm not saying he was a great defensive player, but I think he did pretty well, all things considered. He has a lot to improve though to even be an ok starter.

You're saying Trey Burke is a better defensive player than Exum ?? Seriously ??

 

[fishonjazz]

It's pretty obvious Exum sucked. He stood in the corner doing nothing all year. He might develop into a very nice player, but he showed very little his rookie year.

This.
Bottom line.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's pretty obvious Exum sucked. He stood in the corner doing nothing all year. He might develop into a very nice player, but he showed very little his rookie year.

Besides fat D and a breakout sophomore SL game.

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[Ron Mexico]

Okay, here are all 60 NBA seasons played by a teenager who got over 800 minutes:

https://bkref.com/tiny/NUsgV

57 of them put up a PER above the so-called "replacement value" of 8.0, including Shaun Livingston (10.4). Three didn't close: Exum, Tskitishvili, and Rashad Vaughn. Exum only managed HALF of what Livingston did as a teenage rookie. The point is, even compared to players the same age and experience level, Exum sucked. Sorry, it's true.

Hopefully Exum will pull his head out of his arse and play better going forward. But it seems like the odds are stacked against that happening.

How many of them had a record as a starter comparable to Exum? How many of them were the top defender at their position at 19 years old? Just because he didnt put up offensive numbers doesnt mean he sucked. He ran plays, got the ball up the court, played excellent defense, took the open 3 point shots to make defenders stay on him and not sag off and deferred to better players on offense and got the ball into their hands. His IQ and general decision making was excellent for a player his age. Yes, he could have tried to drive more, yes he could have shot more. But those would have lead to less wins. Exum will expand his game slowly and surely. He showed that he can drive before the injury. It was pretty obvious on offense he was just trying to run the plays and get the ball into better players hands. He did the things he was good at while working on the rest of his game off the court. He will have plenty of new things to show off in the future. He does not need to pull his head out of his ***, he needs to keep playing smart and working hard like he has and will.

 

[Ron Mexico]

If you go by DRPM, he was roughly neutral on defense. So compared to his poor offense, defense was where he stood out.

I'm not saying he was a great defensive player, but I think he did pretty well, all things considered. He has a lot to improve though to even be an ok starter.

He was also the top PG for staying in front of his assigned player. With his length this is the best thing you can ask of a perimeter defender.

 

[Ron Mexico]

With a defensive rating of 109 and the Jazz better defensively with him off the floor with their two best units? They were much better with Trey in their top starting 5 defensive rotation than with Exum. It's too bad 82games.com deletes stats every year so I couldn't throw them up one more time.

How long are you going to comfort yourself with this Exum is good at teh defense blankie?

Man how can you argue with that logic. Guess your right Trey is a much better defender. Thats why he stayed our starter and helped us win so much. We were all wrong, Corbin was the GOAT coach and if we kept him his pet Burke would be an all-star PG with great defense...

Is Whiteside a worse defender at the Center position than anyone else on the Heat last year including Joe Johnson. Those defensive stats... So useful with an individual player...

 

[RandyForRubio]

You're saying Trey Burke is a better defensive player than Exum ?? Seriously ??

I never mentioned Trey Burke...but no, he isn't a better defensive player. Exum is obviously superior.

 

[framer]

What was the Jazz's record with Exum as a starter?

 

[Lakers_Slapper]

So you are saying Exum has better potential then those 3?

What is it with you and the, "so you are saying that......." posts? It's like your asking if you understand the English language correctly. Is your native tongue Chinese Mandarin and you are just learning the language of English? It is what he said it is. Why ask him to repeat himself? If you have a hard time understanding people from the first direct sentence that they post, that's your problem. You have asked me, this _________ guy and at least 4 other guys to repeat themselves. READ THE SENTENCE AND MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS!!!!!!!! FIGURE IT OUT!!!! You asking everyone to repeat themselves mother brother. Make those gears turn upstairs, (if you have any).

 

[RandyForRubio]

He was also the top PG for staying in front of his assigned player. With his length this is the best thing you can ask of a perimeter defender.

I agree. Fwiw, I think it was pretty impressive to be a neutral defender as a 19 year old rookie.

Most of my optimism comes from what he did against Marcus Smart. Kids got talent, hopefully this injury didn't screw him up too much.

 

[Ron Mexico]

What is it with you and the, "so you are saying that......." posts? It's like your asking if you understand the English language correctly. Is your native tongue Chinese Mandarin and you are just learning the language of English? It is what he said it is. Why ask him to repeat himself? If you have a hard time understanding people from the first direct sentence that they post, that's your problem. You have asked me, this _________ guy and at least 4 other guys to repeat themselves. READ THE SENTENCE AND MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS!!!!!!!! FIGURE IT OUT!!!! You asking everyone to repeat themselves mother brother. Make those gears turn upstairs, (if you have any).

So your saying you like throwing internet temper tantrums?

 

[Ron Mexico]

I agree. Fwiw, I think it was pretty impressive to be a neutral defender as a 19 year old rookie.

Most of my optimism comes from what he did against Marcus Smart. Kids got talent, hopefully this injury didn't screw him up too much.

I am pretty optimistic about the injury. I havent seen this type of injury mess anyone up his age in over a decade. Most come back stronger since they work on things they never would have but obviously should have been.

 

[Siro]

I agree. Fwiw, I think it was pretty impressive to be a neutral defender as a 19 year old rookie.

Most of my optimism comes from what he did against Marcus Smart. Kids got talent, hopefully this injury didn't screw him up too much.

Couldn't care less about 1 SL game. But surely Exum was better than a neutral defender. He's not the mythical defender he is made out to be on JF, but he's great at staying in front of his man and bothering shooters with his length. Definitely a plus defender.

 

[silesian]

What is it with you and the, "so you are saying that......." posts? It's like your asking if you understand the English language correctly. Is your native tongue Chinese Mandarin and you are just learning the language of English? It is what he said it is. Why ask him to repeat himself? If you have a hard time understanding people from the first direct sentence that they post, that's your problem. You have asked me, this _________ guy and at least 4 other guys to repeat themselves. READ THE SENTENCE AND MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS!!!!!!!! FIGURE IT OUT!!!! You asking everyone to repeat themselves mother brother. Make those gears turn upstairs, (if you have any).

Seems that all you do is emotionally criticize other's intellects. I hope you don't fancy yourself to be an intellectual, you may wind up disappointed.

Please consider Valium.

 

[silesian]

Exum's hoops future is highly uncertain. The range of possible outcome is so wide you could drive a MAV through it. lHe could be everything DL and QS believe or he could be not much better than his rookie year. I'm bullish but it is folly to think this is predictable with any certainty. Should be fun to see his career evolve.

 

[gregbroncs]

It's pretty obvious Exum sucked. He stood in the corner doing nothing all year. He might develop into a very nice player, but he showed very little his rookie year.

Offensively you are 100% correct.

Defensively he showed he was a very good player on that end of the floor.