Gobert extension value?

[framer]

That's one of my main questions. If so, then I would tear up the curgent contract and sign a brand new one giving him the big bucks now at a discounted rate. It works for everyone if it is OK by the league.

Isn't that what Cleveland wanted to do with Boozer, then he bailed after the "tearing up" part for a lot more money elsewhere? I think they discourage that now.

 

[♪alt13]

These guys are our guys. They're not FAs from elsewhere, the Jazz can go over the cap. Jazzfanz deserve it and we deserve a stable team. Avoid the poison pill, extend these guys, reclaim at least some of the consistent competitiveness this franchise once had.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

These guys are our guys. They're not FAs from elsewhere, the Jazz can go over the cap. Jazzfanz deserve it and we deserve a stable team. Avoid the poison pill, extend these guys, reclaim at least some of the consistent competitiveness this franchise once had.

You don't extend a player early unless you get a discount. Giving an early extension you should be able to shave at least a million per year off because you are giving security to the player. What if Gobert suffers some sort of catastrophic injury? I'm sure the Jazz have had discussions with his agent along the lines of "we will extend for a small discount now or you can wait and we will fully extend". No reason for Gobert to go out and sign a "poison pill" contract in that case.

The whole Hayward situation happened because DL was really playing hardball and was banking on all the teams running out of money and not having enough money to offer Hayward a max.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

So, does that mean you CAN sign an extension by cancelling the current contract? If so, that makes a lot of sense to me. It's a win win. I am sure that you could put a simple contract out that says the contract you currently have is null and void ONLY once the new contract has been signed. If you cannot do this, I haven't seen where it says so. It may be a work around for NBA contracts that the league has said you cannot do so players can compete on the open market. But heck, it's a bird in hand and if all parties agree I don't see why not.

Jazz would be taking on more risk, but gaining flexibility. Injury risk goes up by 1 season in exchange the player gets plenty of bonuses. I still haven't seen anyone say why you cannot do this...

 

[Jazz4ever]

So, does that mean you CAN sign an extension by cancelling the current contract? If so, that makes a lot of sense to me. It's a win win. I am sure that you could put a simple contract out that says the contract you currently have is null and void ONLY once the new contract has been signed. If you cannot do this, I haven't seen where it says so. It may be a work around for NBA contracts that the league has said you cannot do so players can compete on the open market. But heck, it's a bird in hand and if all parties agree I don't see why not.

Jazz would be taking on more risk, but gaining flexibility. Injury risk goes up by 1 season in exchange the player gets plenty of bonuses. I still haven't seen anyone say why you cannot do this...

Not possible. It was different with Boozer. The Cavs had an option year (3rd year) on Boozer's rookie contract being he was a 2nd round pick. They declined the bargain basement option in a "wink, wink" deal which fast forwarded Boozer to restricted free agency. The alleged agreement was Boozer would immediately resign with the Cavs for 6/41 and not listen to offers. A decent raise, but he would have been clearly lowballed through most of his prime. The Jazz offered 6/70 which was huge money at the time - probably more than Boozer could wildly imagine he'd be offered. We know the rest.

Gobert is a first round pick so he has no option to get out of the rookie contract early. The only way would be a buyout, but that means putting him on waivers first and some other team would obviously claim him and pay his salary. Just about any loopholes have been closed up in the last CBA.

 

[Miggs]

Only have 11+ more days to extend now.

 

[silesian]

Jazzfanz deserve it and we deserve a stable team. Avoid the poison pill, extend these guys, reclaim at least some of the consistent competitiveness this franchise once had.

If they go over the cap, they are very limited in what they can do in free agency (exceptions only), so going over the cap can also hurt team quality. It is not merely a financial issue.

 

[BTP]

If Gobert wants a max, he'll worst case sign a sheet with another team, 4 yrs - 4.5% raises. Restricted free agency always overpay on offer sheets yadayada(you said yourself he's near max)

the 5 year franchise tag only affects early extensions of rookie contracts. If he's signing this summer, he'd be their franchise tag. Next summer they can use his bird rights and still offer him 5 years max regardless if someone else has the franchise tag(loophole they forgot)

So yes, he'll get max regardless of Whiteside's contract.

And there were ppl here arguing 80/4 was his market value for an early extension.
You can also take my word that the Jazz offered Hayward's agent restructuring his contract, if he was interested in doing so.