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green said:
What apps are out there that are allowing you to steal a product from another company?

Or, is this legit?
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There are a bunch of them. Cinemabox, showbox, playbox, popcorn time and a bunch more.

Cool thing with them is that you don't really even need Internet if you have Internet at work or you go to a public place with WiFi or something. You could just download some movies and TV shows while at work or at a coffee shop, home depot, wendy's or whatever and then watch them at home.

Still no live sports though.
 
Siro said:
In that case, I have no reason to get it, and I'm stuck getting a million channels I don't want from Comcast.
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Just curious, if you feel you have too many channels why don't you order less? If you don't want HBO cancel it. I'm pretty sure that they offer a basic package that includes ESPN,FS1, and Root.
 
♪alt13 said:
Just curious, if you feel you have too many channels why don't you order less? If you don't want HBO cancel it. I'm pretty sure that they offer a basic package that includes ESPN,FS1, and Root.
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The basic package does not have Root. I am paying for the cheapest package that includes it, which comes to $150 with my 150 mbps internet. It isn't about money, it's about the value I'm getting. I have HBO Now, and I'm fine paying $15 for that, because I tend to use it. I am not okay paying $80 a month for Root + ESPN + TNT, which are the only channels I watch.

I'd be fine paying $15 JUST for Root Sports. Or for NBALP if it wasn't for blackouts.
 
green said:
What apps are out there that are allowing you to steal a product from another company?

Or, is this legit?
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There are many apps that allow you to steel intellectual property.

To be 100% clear, it is stealing.

I think it's crazy people talk about it openly. I don't usually hear people talking about how their neighbor leaves his garage open so it's easy to go take whatever tools he needs without having to pay for it. Or how they save tons of money on their grocery shopping because they load the cheap stuff in the shopping cart and pile the expensive meats and such in a false beer gut suit they wear.

I don't understand why it's okay.
 
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Bulletproof said:
There are many apps that allow you to steel intellectual property.

To be 100% clear, it is steeling.

I think it's crazy people talk about it openly. I don't usually hear people talking about how their neighbor leaves his garage open so it's easy to go take whatever tools he needs without having to pay for it. Or how they save tons of money on their grocery shopping because they load the cheap stuff in the shopping cart and pile the expensive meats and such in a false beer gut suit they wear.

I don't understand why it's okay.
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Because people feel less guilty about stealing digital information from multinational conglomerates.
 
I pay $29.99 a month for high speed internet and like $7 for Netflix. I bought League Pass for only the Jazz for $66 or something like that. I used my parents Dish account to get Watch ESPN for free. FoxSports Go is free as well. You can pay $5 or less for any channel you really want. This is all on the Roku by the way. Have not had any streaming problems and haven't missed DirecTV/Dish at all. I'm saving a ton of money too as you can see. I highly recommend this option to everyone.


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White Chocolate said:
I pay $29.99 a month for high speed internet and like $7 for Netflix. I bought League Pass for only the Jazz for $66 or something like that. I used my parents Dish account to get Watch ESPN for free. FoxSports Go is free as well. You can pay $5 or less for any channel you really want. This is all on the Roku by the way. Have not had any streaming problems and haven't missed DirecTV/Dish at all. I'm saving a ton of money too as you can see. I highly recommend this option to everyone.


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Who are you paying that 29.99 to for the high speed internet?
 
Siro said:
Because people feel less guilty about stealing digital information from multinational conglomerates.
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Yet I doubt any of us would talk about it if we were stealing DVDs at Walmart.

I know that people don't feel guilty about it, they practically brag about it. I'm not really trying to say they are bad people, I just think it's weird that it is generally acceptable to do it.
 
Siro said:
The basic package does not have Root. I am paying for the cheapest package that includes it, which comes to $150 with my 150 mbps internet. It isn't about money, it's about the value I'm getting. I have HBO Now, and I'm fine paying $15 for that, because I tend to use it. I am not okay paying $80 a month for Root + ESPN + TNT, which are the only channels I watch.

I'd be fine paying $15 JUST for Root Sports. Or for NBALP if it wasn't for blackouts.
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So you watch the most expensive channels. Only 1 of which google seems to be carrying. Sports channels are subsidized by people that don't give a **** about sports. If my mother in law stops paying 8 bucks a month for ESPN, a buck or 2 for Root, and whatever it is for TNT then it's going to cost you more. Sports fans benefit the most from bundling. IIRC under a third of cabke subscribers watch ESPN. In the longrun more choice in channels just means that you will end up paying what you've shown you are willing to pay (80$ a month) perhaps more but without all the channels you would get in a bundle. Maybe google's bundles will be better maybe not but they're still going to have do it to compete. Seriously sports fans complaining about extra channels is hilarious.
 
♪alt13 said:
So you watch the most expensive channels. Only 1 of which google seems to be carrying. Sports channels are subsidized by people that don't give a **** about sports. If my mother in law stops paying 8 bucks a month for ESPN, a buck or 2 for Root, and whatever it is for TNT then it's going to cost you more. Sports fans benefit the most from bundling. IIRC under a third of cabke subscribers watch ESPN. In the longrun choice just means that you will end up paying what you've shown you are willing to pay (80$ a month) perhaps more but without all the channels you would get in a bundle. Maybe google's bundles will be better maybe not but they're still going to have do it to compete. Seriously sports fans complaining about extra channels is hilarious.
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It costs something like $200 to get NBAPL, which is all I want, if it wasn't for the blackout. So I don't buy the argument that I should feel lucky that Comcast only charges me 5x the amount to bundle 200 channels I have zero interest in.
 
Siro said:
It costs something like $200 to get NBAPL, which is all I want, if it wasn't for the blackout. So I don't buy the argument that I should feel lucky that Comcast only charges me 5x the amount to bundle 200 channels I have zero interest in.
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The blackout are because of the huge TV contracts. I'm sure that if you (nba fans) were willing to pay what it would cost to make up for that lost revenue then they would offer it without blackouts. Way more than 200 bucks.
 
♪alt13 said:
The blackout are because of the huge TV contracts. I'm sure that if you (nba fans) were willing to pay what it would cost to make up for that lost revenue then they would offer it without blackouts. Way more than 200 bucks.
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Of course it's about their money. This whole thing is about different entities working together to maximize their profits. Like duh! But none of that is relevant to the fact that I'm forced to pay a fortune for stuff I don't want.
 
Siro said:
Of course it's about their money. This whole thing is about different entities working together to maximize their profits. Like duh! But none of that is relevant to the fact that I'm forced to pay a fortune for stuff I don't want.
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Yes it is. If only sports fans paid for ESPN it would cost over 20 bucks a month. Bundling is kinda like buying in bulk because everybody is paying for ESPN it costs you 8 bucks a month instead of 24.
 
♪alt13 said:
Yes it is. If only sports fans paid for ESPN it would cost over 20 bucks a month. Bundling is like buying in bulk because everybody is paying for ESPN it costs you 8 bucks a month instead of 24. It's kinda like insurance companies having a bunch of healthy people in the pool to pay for the sick people.
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That only makes sense when you look at the entire cable subscriber base. As far as I'm concerned, I'd like an option to get the channels I want separately. If I can get the three channels I want for something like $30, then I'd do it. Comcast can keep their beloved super bundle for those interested. I'm not, and I'd move to the first competitor that offers me a deal that makes more sense to me.
 
Siro said:
That only makes sense when you look at the entire cable subscriber base. As far as I'm concerned, I'd like an option to get the channels I want separately. If I can get the three channels I want for something like $30, then I'd do it. Comcast can keep their beloved super bundle for those interested. I'm not, and I'd move to the first competitor that offers me a deal that makes more sense to me.
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Disney is not going to offer anyone the Disney Channel that isn't willing to pay for ESPN and vice versa. Same thing with Time Warner, Viacom, etc.

IIRC about 7 companies provide 95 percent of the content.
 
♪alt13 said:
Disney is not going to offer anyone the Disney Channel that isn't willing to pay for ESPN and vice versa. Same thing with Time Warner, Viacom, etc.

IIRC about 7 companies provide 95 percent of the content.
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People made that exact argument for why HBO will never be offered separately. And yet, here we are. We have a system where few large actors used their monopolies to force us into their preferred system. It isn't an inevitable or an eternal situation. We're already seeing a movement toward unbundling.

BTW, do you still think 4k TVs are DOA? ;)
 
Siro said:
People made that exact argument for why HBO will never be offered separately. And yet, here we are. We have a system where few large actors used their monopolies to force us into their preferred system. It isn't an inevitable or an eternal situation. We're already seeing a movement toward unbundling.

BTW, do you still think 4k TVs are DOA? ;)
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HBO was always offer as a stand alone chanel.

I never said 4k is DOA. I said that you're a sucker if you spend more for higher definition that your eyes can't see from the couch. I stand by it. 4k on a handheld or laptop makes sense but a TV, Suckers.
 
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