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bigb said:
You're using your parents paid subscription to get access to the WatchESPN app. You're not a paying subscriber, but you're using it.


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If that's the worst thing I'm doing in my life then I must be doing pretty good.


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green said:
Huh? This makes no sense at all.

I pay $120 a month for Comcast internet, 240 tv channels and home phone.

In order for me to piecemeal together a hodgepodge of instruments to come close to this gets me to $90 a month...and I don't get Jazz games, BBC, HGTV and a host of other channels.

Now, I don't use all 240 channels...well, let me restate, I don't WATCH all 240 channels. But I use them. The fact that I can get Jazz games (and if I bought NBA league pass and there weren't blackouts, that would cost me an additional $120 or $10 a month), the PAC-12 Network, BBC, HGTV and I can't get that anywhere else...well, something is paying for those extra channels.

It's the 200 channels I DON'T watch.

Now, if you gave me all the channels I wanted ala carte, or added onto Sling or Youtube or whatever, the cost would be much higher than what they are reporting. Add in the costs of increased internet costs as cable tv revenue drops...and you will end up paying more than what you pay now.

We don't need more tricycles. We need more cars. The cable option gives you everything streaming does...only better. And cheaper. With more options.

And it's not even close.
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You are talking about you here.
Everyone isn't like you.

A lot of people want something different than you. A lot of people love roku, netflix, ps vue, sling, etc and hate what comcast/dish/direct offer.

I'm just glad other options are out there. You can do you and others can do something different. Not sure why you are arguing about it as if it's one or the other for everyone.
 
Siro said:
I am not forced to buy the drinks if I want a burger. It isn't about what's correctly priced. It is about the fact that I'm paying for a lot more than I want. I don't care if one part subsidizes the other. I want the option to pay the unsubsidized price. If Youtube TV offers Roots Sports + ESPN for 35 bucks, then it is a better deal to me than Comcast's bundle. Thus they get my business. I honestly don't know what your argument is at this point. It will never happen? Nonsense. It's already happening. The cable model is better? Not to me. Not to a lot of people.

Edit: About your edit, it is still the wrong analogy. Comcast isn't offering me free fries with that burger. They are forcing me to buy fries, drink, milkshake, and make a donation to Trump University, if I want the burger. No equivalence between the two situations.
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Best post here. Destroyed everybody on the other side of the discussion.
 
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Mods,

Please add 2017 Technology Champion to [MENTION=40]Siro[/MENTION]'s byline. TIA.
 
NAOS said:
Mods,

Please add 2017 Technology Champion to [MENTION=40]Siro[/MENTION]'s byline. TIA.
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Siro won't sniff youtube tv in 2017 and even if he did it's still a bundled cable package without TNT. One that requires a stellar 3rd party ISP. If Google works out the kinks in wireless broadband then I'll get excited about a true competitor. Short of that Comcast will remain king.

Book it
 
Great talk guys. I haven't had TV in years, so if YouTube gets me to sign up, that's a decent accomplishment.
 
♪alt13 said:
Siro won't sniff youtube tv in 2017 and even if he did it's still a bundled cable package without TNT. One that requires a stellar 3rd party ISP. If Google works out the kinks in wireless broadband then I'll get excited about a true competitor. Short of that Comcast will remain king.

Book it
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Mods,

Pls cancel my previous request to crown [MENTION=40]Siro[/MENTION] Technology Champion on 2017
 
fishonjazz said:
One thing that people like green are also forgetting is that there are apps out there for FREE that allow me to watch more shows and movies than his expensive comcast package provides.

Right now I'm watching sneaky pete. An amazon tv show. I don't have amazon tv.
I watched stranger things. A Netflix show. I don't have netflix. Making a murderer. Etc
I watched the movie passengers, John wick 2, rings, arrival, the revenant, nocturnal animals, and tons more before any of the hbo/showtime/starz/etc ever had them.

Only thing I care about cable for is live sports and soon we will be able to get them without cable. (Hell I already can get most byu football games with the ESPN app.)
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isn't that piracy and illegal!
 
Bulletproof said:
There are many apps that allow you to steel intellectual property.

To be 100% clear, it is stealing.

I think it's crazy people talk about it openly. I don't usually hear people talking about how their neighbor leaves his garage open so it's easy to go take whatever tools he needs without having to pay for it. Or how they save tons of money on their grocery shopping because they load the cheap stuff in the shopping cart and pile the expensive meats and such in a false beer gut suit they wear.

I don't understand why it's okay.
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i used to think it was wrong(even though Netherlands downloading is legal till the global tyrant called eu stepped in and forced us to change the law)

but after the recent condescending lecturing from the Hollywood liberal elite, i say screw them let them not make a single cent of me for the rest of my LIFE!
 
Bulletproof said:
Yet I doubt any of us would talk about it if we were stealing DVDs at Walmart.

I know that people don't feel guilty about it, they practically brag about it. I'm not really trying to say they are bad people, I just think it's weird that it is generally acceptable to do it.
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sometimes it just a matter of being able to afford it. me for example pirated every single game i played until about 6-8 years ago.
now that i am financially more stable i buy games.

even bought the games i played back in the day and never played again. i bought it and it just sits in my steam library!

so yeah, one thing i find horrid with the whole media system.
is the amount of profit they make. why the hell do we need to pay 50 bucks for an avenger bluray after it made it money back five fold in the theatrical run? those prices are just outrageous.

or for example if you are a cord cutter lets say you watch about 2 tv shows a night 5 times a week(1 40 minute show and 1 20 minute show)
that is about 480-700 dollar worth of tv show you need to buy on iTunes thtas a lot of money for some entertainment. usually and episode cost 2.99 (for example big bang theory) there is a cheaper seaosn price.

lets be honest those people are fracking hypocryts the entertainment industry is moslty left wing people, they will go on twitter and scream income inequaltity while they make half a million dollars for a episode. while others who work on the behind the scene barely get by
yet these entertainment people get on their soapbox and lecture us about income inequality and other left wing hubbub. so yeha i have no sympathy for them.
 
DutchJazzer said:
sometimes it just a matter of being able to afford it. me for example pirated every single game i played until about 6-8 years ago.
now that i am financially more stable i buy games.

even bought the games i played back in the day and never played again. i bought it and it just sits in my steam library!

so yeah, one thing i find horrid with the whole media system.
is the amount of profit they make. why the hell do we need to pay 50 bucks for an avenger bluray after it made it money back five fold in the theatrical run? those prices are just outrageous.

or for example if you are a cord cutter lets say you watch about 2 tv shows a night 5 times a week(1 40 minute show and 1 20 minute show)
that is about 480-700 dollar worth of tv show you need to buy on iTunes thtas a lot of money for some entertainment. usually and episode cost 2.99 (for example big bang theory) there is a cheaper seaosn price.

lets be honest those people are fracking hypocryts the entertainment industry is moslty left wing people, they will go on twitter and scream income inequaltity while they make half a million dollars for a episode. while others who work on the behind the scene barely get by
yet these entertainment people get on their soapbox and lecture us about income inequality and other left wing hubbub. so yeha i have no sympathy for them.
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I don't know what kind of prices you find but those don't even make sense. Nobody charges $50 for a blue-ray DVD or $2.99 per episode of a season.

I know you're a troll but at least make it believable when you spew **** out of your mouth.


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How are the actors hypocrites? Because they made money from "the man" and want to help less powerful people (ie, minimum wage earners) have opportunities to make more money?

That makes no sense.

Why are you asking them to take pay cuts but then are for corporate welfare and tax cuts and cutting welfare?

That's hypocrisy.
 
Siro said:
Hey guys, I have an announcement. I'm opening a burger joint. The burgers will only cost $0.50, but they come with a $50 order of fries. You can throw the fries in the trash if you want, but remember that the cost of the fries subsidizes the burger. My burgers come with a ton of mayonnaise, so they are different from my competitors who are selling their burgers for $5 a piece. Look forward to taking your money.
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sounds like socialist burgers to me!
 
Siro said:
BTW



Alt13 didn't think 4k TVs will catch on. Actually the entire thread is funny:

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?33762-Thinking-about-a-4k-tv

I can't wait to bring up that Mars thread when we're living in our sweet orbital rings.
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lol did he really say that? but really 8k 12 k will prolly catch on.


i knew 3d wouldn't catch on just yet. for now it's dead. will be tried again in a few years. but ultimatly vr will make 3d obsolete before it catches on
 
♪alt13 said:
Yes it is a lot like a burger joint. Try opening a burger joint that doesn't sell overpriced drinks. Let me know how that works out for you. The food is totally subsidized by an outrageous markup on sugar water.

PS the fries are often offered at cost to get you to buy one of those drinks.
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really, whenever i get fastfood i never get the drinks! so i must be a free loader
 
green said:
It's pretty simple. If you use something and aren't paying for it...you probably shouldn't be going to the temple.
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soo if i visit my parents for a few weeks, and i use their computer and internet subscription i am immoral and shouldnt go to a prayer service?


sounds legit!

seriously his parents ar epaying for it, wtf cant he use it
 
White Chocolate said:
I don't know what kind of prices you find but those don't even make sense. Nobody charges $50 for a blue-ray DVD or $2.99 per episode of a season.

I know you're a troll but at least make it believable when you spew **** out of your mouth.


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i checked it while typing up that post. see im right about the per episode cost(checked 3 tv shows. some old shows are cheaper ofcourse but im tlaking about recent stuff


i did not check bluray prices as i did not check em in a while, but on that I made a mistake I see the newest titles are not about 50 bucks anymore(49.99) but because of 4k i see they dropped to 39.99. but hell even 20 bucks for a movie that made it profit 5 times over is too much. at least to me, some people have opinion that profit can be unlimited. but me personally from a moral standpoint profit should not be ,multiples of revenue! and in movie it is kinda different. sorry for not looking up recent prices for bluray
and i never mentioned dvd i think!



I hereby accept your apology


had to black out my bookmarks, because people might judge me and tell me i should not go to chruch if those are my bookmarks ;)
 
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