Youtube TV

[Siro]

Content providers (especially sports)drive up the cost of cable not the actual cable provider. With this you're still stuck paying comcast to be your ISP and you're getting a basic cable package through a different company. A basic cable package that apparently is going to be even shorter on content than the one you could get through comcast. Not that excited tbh.
I don't think Google is giving up on the ISP business. They may give up on fiber optic networks but they won't give up on being the gate keeper. It looks like they're working on wireless broadband from what I can tell.

Since we both agree that Google may have given up on the Fiber project, it is reasonable to say that Google is likely to offer the service in markets where it has Fiber.

As far as I'm concerned, the package is a lot cheaper than the one I get from Comcast. I care about VEW few channels, which must come bundled with an assload of channels that I have zero interest in. Youtube TV seems to have nearly all the channels that I want. Given that they give you 6 accounts with the service, it can cost as little as $6. So ya, super excited.

 

[♪alt13]

Since we both agree that Google may have given up on the Fiber project, it is reasonable to say that Google is likely to offer the service in markets where it has Fiber.

As far as I'm concerned, the package is a lot cheaper than the one I get from Comcast. I care about VEW few channels, which must come bundled with an assload of channels that I have zero interest in. Youtube TV seems to have nearly all the channels that I want. Given that they give you 6 accounts with the service, it can cost as little as $6. So ya, super excited.

You can't watch all 6 accounts at the same time. Only 3 still cheap but many of us have more than 1 tv. I didn't see rootsports which makes me think that they are not going to offer it in Utah. No TNT means that you're not going to have a good chunk of the nba playoffs. Having to still pay comcast anyway makes me say meh. They charge you damn near as much for just Internet as they will for Internet plus basic. They don't want you to get directtv and youtube is not going to help. We need more competition from our local ISPs.

 

[green]

Content providers (especially sports)drive up the cost of cable not the actual cable provider. With this you're still stuck paying comcast to be your ISP and you're getting a basic cable package through a different company. A basic cable package that apparently is going to be even shorter on content than the one you could get through comcast. Not that excited tbh.
I don't think Google is giving up on the ISP business. They may give up on fiber optic networks but they won't give up on being the gate keeper. It looks like they're working on wireless broadband from what I can tell.

This. I don't get why everyone is so gaga over stuff like this.

It's $35 after you pay for internet. I pay $120 for internet, tv, and cable, which includes HBO and the PAC-12 networks.

If I get internet only from Comcast, it's $29.99. It's $14.99 for HBO. To get the PAC-12 networks, I need sling tv. To get FX, FXX, Disney, PAC-12 networks, Discovery Channel, it's $45.
That all adds up to $90 a month. And I don't get HGTV, BBC, Jazz games and a whole host of other channels. What's video replay? Is that like a DVR?

And I don't get phone with that (which isn't a big deal, because I've never used the phone, but whatever).

So, you want me to spend a small amount less every month for what? Less convenience, less channels, issues streaming at times, less picture quality, etc?

lol. You cord cutters are being duped. You are spending a similar amount for a far inferior product. And when the cable companies go or the moronic republicans get rid of net neutrality?

You will end up paying a lot more for less product than what we are paying for cable right now.

 

[fishonjazz]

You can't watch all 6 accounts at the same time. Only 3 still cheap but many of us have more than 1 tv. I didn't see rootsports which makes me think that they are not going to offer it in Utah. No TNT means that you're not going to have a good chunk of the nba playoffs. Having to still pay comcast anyway makes me say meh. They charge you damn near as much for just Internet as they will for Internet plus basic. They don't want you to get directtv and youtube is not going to help. We need more competition from our local ISPs.

Why would you still have to pay comcast?

 

[green]

Why would you still have to pay comcast?

For internet.

 

[fishonjazz]

For internet.

Oh, he thinks comcast is the only Internet provider. I get it now.

 

[green]

Oh, he thinks comcast is the only Internet provider. I get it now.

In Utah, it's the only provider that doesn't constantly have problems, which is the point of his post.

We don't need this internet streaming stuff. The cheapest option will be cable. What we need is more competition among cable providers. But, that won't happen. The whole cable Oligarchy and all.

I'd post a video that explains it quite well, but some here can't handle adult language, so got to have the kid gloves on.

 

[fishonjazz]

In Utah, it's the only provider that doesn't constantly have problems, which is the point of his post.

We don't need this internet streaming stuff. The cheapest option will be cable. What we need is more competition among cable providers. But, that won't happen. The whole cable Oligarchy and all.

I'd post a video that explains it quite well, but some here can't handle adult language, so got to have the kid gloves on.

My co worker LOVES quest.

My comcast bill is $165 each month.

With this youtube thing I could save about $80 per month. That's a lot of money for a household that only has a total income of about 50,000 per year.

And I agree we need more competition among cable providers. You know what forces them to get more competitive with pricing? Cord cutting services.

 

[green]

My co worker LOVES quest.

My comcast bill is $165 each month.

With this youtube thing I could save about $80 per month. That's a lot of money for a household that only has a total income of about 50,000 per year.

And I agree we need more competition among cable providers. You know what forces them to get more competitive with pricing? Cord cutting services.

True, you can save $80 per month, but the product you would be getting would be 1/5th of what you are getting now. So, yeah, you'd save, but you'd be paying way more per channel/service than what you are paying now.

I've had quest before. It's garbage. I'd usually get around 2-3 mbps after 4pm. I'd rather pay the $10 more and get reliable service from Comcast.

We don't need cord cutting. That is overpaying.

We need more cable providers to provide competition. There is a big difference.

What you are saying is that a car costs too much and you should switch to a tricycle because it's cheaper and if everyone started buying tricycles, it would make the cost of a car come down.

We don't need tricycles, we need more car companies.

 

[Boris]

Since we both agree that Google may have given up on the Fiber project, it is reasonable to say that Google is likely to offer the service in markets where it has Fiber.

As far as I'm concerned, the package is a lot cheaper than the one I get from Comcast. I care about VEW few channels, which must come bundled with an assload of channels that I have zero interest in. Youtube TV seems to have nearly all the channels that I want. Given that they give you 6 accounts with the service, it can cost as little as $6. So ya, super excited.

You do not pay for the miriad channels you do not watch really. The bundle provides cheap access for the networks to sell there commercials through. If they had to each sell you there channel only they would have to build expansive infrastructure. Than they would all start joining together to lower costs. An voila, you have bundle providers.

Why these thinks are so hard for you first world problems whiners is perplexing.

 

[Boris]

True, you can save $80 per month, but the product you would be getting would be 1/5th of what you are getting now. So, yeah, you'd save, but you'd be paying way more per channel/service than what you are paying now.

I've had quest before. It's garbage. I'd usually get around 2-3 mbps after 4pm. I'd rather pay the $10 more and get reliable service from Comcast.

We don't need cord cutting. That is overpaying.

We need more cable providers to provide competition. There is a big difference.

What you are saying is that a car costs too much and you should switch to a tricycle because it's cheaper and if everyone started buying tricycles, it would make the cost of a car come down.

We don't need tricycles, we need more car companies.

Not to mention, guess what happens to the price of internet when Comcast looses 90% of there business. You know how much satellite internet costs? It is like $700 just to set it up. There is no free lunch folks.

 

[fishonjazz]

We need more cable providers to provide competition.

And if that never happens?


Look at this thread. There is obvious interest in this you tube tv regardless of what you think about it. Lots of people have already cut the cord. Netflix, ruku, amazon tv, ps vue, sling, etc etc etc. Comcast and dish and direct TV are losing subscribers like crazy because of these other options that you think suck.

They will be forced to become more competitive or die. If not for these streaming services they would never change. There would be no reason to.

As for you car to tricycle scenario, if everyone started buying tricycles and stopped buying cars then car companies would have to get more competitive.


I generally agree with what you say but there are only 3 cable companies and I don't hear about any others coming along so streaming looks like it is going to be the thing that makes cable try to be more competitive with pricing whether we like it or not. Better than just not having streaming and letting cable charge whatever the **** they want imo.

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[green]

And if that never happens?


Look at this thread. There is obvious interest in this you tube tv regardless of what you think about it. Lots of people have already cut the cord. Netflix, ruku, amazon tv, ps vue, sling, etc etc etc. Comcast and dish and direct TV are losing subscribers like crazy because of these other options that you think suck.

They will be forced to become more competitive or die. If not for these streaming services they would never change. There would be no reason to.

As for you car to tricycle scenario, if everyone started buying tricycles and stopped buying cars then car companies would have to get more competitive.


I generally agree with what you say but there are only 3 cable companies and I don't hear about any others coming along so streaming looks like it is going to be the thing that makes cable try to be more competitive with pricing whether we like it or not. Better than just not having streaming and letting cable charge whatever the **** they want imo.

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I don't doubt any of this. The problem is the alternative is worse.

Like was just posted, bundling makes everything really cheap (even though $180 is still a lot of money, but the value you get is absurdly amazing). If you take away all the other channels selling stuff and running commercials, you will end up with a very stripped down version of what we have today.

Think 1950's tv, 8 channels and nothing more.

Also, like was already mentioned, once Comcast loses it's tv arm of revenue, they will have to make that money back somewhere. Guess what happens to your internet costs? Yup, you'll be paying over $100 a month for what you are now paying $29.99 for and you will still be paying $180 a month for a 1/3rd of the channels.

Things are changing, but not always for the better. The best thing to happen would be for there to be more cable companies that actually compete against each other.

We want more car companies, not more tricycle companies. But, like you have said and the whole Oligarchy thing, we, the consumers, are going to get screwed in the end. Comcast will be fine. They will charge the same and give out less content and their profit margins go up. We will be screwed, because we will be paying $180 a month for 1/5th the content we get now.

Good old capitalism, right? Where only the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

 

[fishonjazz]

I don't doubt any of this. The problem is the alternative is worse.

Like was just posted, bundling makes everything really cheap (even though $180 is still a lot of money, but the value you get is absurdly amazing). If you take away all the other channels selling stuff and running commercials, you will end up with a very stripped down version of what we have today.

Think 1950's tv, 8 channels and nothing more.

Also, like was already mentioned, once Comcast loses it's tv arm of revenue, they will have to make that money back somewhere. Guess what happens to your internet costs? Yup, you'll be paying over $100 a month for what you are now paying $29.99 for and you will still be paying $180 a month for a 1/3rd of the channels.

Things are changing, but not always for the better. The best thing to happen would be for there to be more cable companies that actually compete against each other.

We want more car companies, not more tricycle companies. But, like you have said and the whole Oligarchy thing, we, the consumers, are going to get screwed in the end. Comcast will be fine. They will charge the same and give out less content and their profit margins go up. We will be screwed, because we will be paying $180 a month for 1/5th the content we get now.

Good old capitalism, right? Where only the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Nah, we will pay will less for less content. And have tons of options. Lots of us are fine with that.

 

[green]

Nah, we will pay will less for less content. And have tons of options. Lots of us are fine with that.

Really? Show me where I can get 240 channels, DVR, HBO for $120. That is what I have with Comcast right now. And internet and home phone? PAC-12 Network, Jazz games, BBC, HGTV, etc.

 

[Siro]

You can't watch all 6 accounts at the same time. Only 3 still cheap but many of us have more than 1 tv. I didn't see rootsports which makes me think that they are not going to offer it in Utah. No TNT means that you're not going to have a good chunk of the nba playoffs. Having to still pay comcast anyway makes me say meh. They charge you damn near as much for just Internet as they will for Internet plus basic. They don't want you to get directtv and youtube is not going to help. We need more competition from our local ISPs.

In that case, I have no reason to get it, and I'm stuck getting a million channels I don't want from Comcast.

 

[fishonjazz]

Really? Show me where I can get 240 channels, DVR, HBO for $120. That is what I have with Comcast right now. And internet and home phone? PAC-12 Network, Jazz games, BBC, HGTV, etc.

Why would I show you that. I didn't say anything like that.
I said LESS CONTENT for LESS MONEY.

 

[green]

Why would I show you that. I didn't say anything like that.
I said LESS CONTENT for LESS MONEY.

Yup, you did say that. I went off on a tangent there. I still say you won't end up paying less though.

 

[fishonjazz]

One thing that people like green are also forgetting is that there are apps out there for FREE that allow me to watch more shows and movies than his expensive comcast package provides.

Right now I'm watching sneaky pete. An amazon tv show. I don't have amazon tv.
I watched stranger things. A Netflix show. I don't have netflix. Making a murderer. Etc
I watched the movie passengers, John wick 2, rings, arrival, the revenant, nocturnal animals, and tons more before any of the hbo/showtime/starz/etc ever had them.

Only thing I care about cable for is live sports and soon we will be able to get them without cable. (Hell I already can get most byu football games with the ESPN app.)

 

[green]

One thing that people like green are also forgetting is that there are apps out there for FREE that allow me to watch more shows and movies than his expensive comcast package provides.

Right now I'm watching sneaky pete. An amazon tv show. I don't have amazon tv.
I watched stranger things. A Netflix show. I don't have netflix. Making a murderer. Etc
I watched the movie passengers, John wick 2, rings, arrival, the revenant, nocturnal animals, and tons more before any of the hbo/showtime/starz/etc ever had them.

Only thing I care about cable for is live sports and soon we will be able to get them without cable. (Hell I already can get most byu football games with the ESPN app.)

What apps are out there that are allowing you to steal a product from another company?

Or, is this legit?