Going all in is trading two dudes who have no future w/ the Jazz and a guy who projects to be our back-up center along with a late lottery/mid to late teens draft pick? lmfao.
Unless that pick is in the top 5 that has no shot of being accepted.
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Unless that pick is in the top 5 that has no shot of being accepted.
I mean, it's impossible unless we get a top 5 pick to trade for Gordon. It's an idea based on something that has less than a 3% chance of happening.
You are probably right, but the prospect of getting someone like Bagley, Ayton, Young, or Porter (along w/ Hood and Exum) might entice them.
At any rate, I think it's more interesting a question than acting like teams are going to give us gold for unwanted pieces (cough *lopo* cough). A #2 overall pick in this draft is an actual thing of value combined w/ two young rotation players w/ potential. It's a better package than what any "star" has gone for in the last decade.
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But then again, the Magic might land the #1 overall pick themselves, get a new coach, and look like gold next year. Doncic or Young could really turn them around and keeping Gordon would be the clear move.
The Magic really need to turn it around though or Gordon is going to be on the trading block at some point during his next contract cuz the Magic have been a garbage franchise since Howard left.
The Magic really need to turn it around though or Gordon is going to be on the trading block at some point during his next contract cuz the Magic have been a garbage franchise since Howard left.
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Hey Cy, quit being a douche. You are pushing an unrealistic Gordon trade then bashing a Kuzma trade. Lol you being you.
It would take the Lakers multiple firsts just to trade away Deng. Bradley is a weak 1st but still a first. And our first will not be worse than 17th or 18th so its not a "bad pick" at all considering the Lakers don't have a first at all this year.
C'mon now
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It would take the Lakers multiple firsts just to trade away Deng. Bradley is a weak 1st but still a first. And our first will not be worse than 17th or 18th so its not a "bad pick" at all considering the Lakers don't have a first at all this year.
C'mon now
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My trade is unrealistic because it requires something to happen that is unrealistic (the jazz get a top 3 pick). I'm at least creating a scenario where the Jazz give up something of great value.
Your trade are unrealistic because YOU KEEP PUTTING PLAYERS IN TRADES THAT HAVE NO VALUE AND EXPECT TO GET VALUE BACK. The Lakers have already said they cant trade Deng because they arent going to trade Kuzma or Ingram. You keep doing this and it's just annoying. Sorry.
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Cy - taking one of the worst contracts in the NBA is exactly the Jazz giving something up. Its called cap space.
In the last 6 months, the Lakers have traded the former #2 pick so a team would take a contract that was beter than Deng's.
C'mon man. Be objective
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In the last 6 months, the Lakers have traded the former #2 pick so a team would take a contract that was beter than Deng's.
C'mon man. Be objective
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The Lakers came out and said they aren't using Ingram or Kuzma to dump Deng. There was nothing said about using Kuzma or Ingram to dump Deng AND pick up first round picks.
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Jesus Christ dude. This has been thoroughly discussed. The Lakers arent trading Kuzma, Ingram, or Deng. They know thy cant move Deng. They are just going to extend and stretch him while trying to trade Clarkson. Please stop being dumb. I mean, you are allowed to be dumb, but I'm going to continue to call out these dumb proposals that are neither interesting thought exercises or realistic.
Yeah bro you find the loophole. That late lottery or teen pick is going to really make them rethink trading Kuzma or Ingram. For real.
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Okay Cy, captain know it all. The Lakers will make moves. They are using the media to show strength but everybody knows they have to trade Deng to reach their goals. They will become impatient.
Much more likely the Lakers trade one of their young 3 to dump Deng than Orlando takes 2 restricted free agents and that pick you think is terrible for Gordon they have the rights to.
Now that is a dumbass trade.
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Much more likely the Lakers trade one of their young 3 to dump Deng than Orlando takes 2 restricted free agents and that pick you think is terrible for Gordon they have the rights to.
Now that is a dumbass trade.
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NO. They do not have to trade Deng. All they have to do is extend and stretch him. This has been reported on MANY TIMES. All they have to do is trade Clarkson and not re-sign Randle.
And yes, it's way dumber than thinking Orlando might want a top 3 overall pick.
It's also a new trade idea instead of the 100th time you've posted trading Favors and Johnson (two close to zero value trade pieces) and the Jazz get back a valuable rotation player.
It's also a new trade idea instead of the 100th time you've posted trading Favors and Johnson (two close to zero value trade pieces) and the Jazz get back a valuable rotation player.
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So it makes sense to trade one of their best players in Clarkson, let another go in Randle, and pay Deng $10 million a year to go away.
Just to afford that 2nd superstar.
You're a genius Gump.
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Just to afford that 2nd superstar.
You're a genius Gump.
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I said go all in on Kuzma. I would include more for sure. He fits every timeline and need perfectly. I would consider trading Hood too.
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Jesus christ dude. Are you purposefully being daft? We have discussed the extension and stretch provisions that allows them to pay Deng over the course of the next 10 years.
And yes, it makes sense. Just think about it for a second. Clarkson and Randle arent part of their future. Everyone knows it.
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You dont know anything. The Lakers haven't done anything but talk up their young assets. They haven't said they would trade Clarkson or Randle. That's all media speculation.
No player is untouchable especially since the Lakers want superstars.
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You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink I guess.
Its not media speculation. The Lakers are very open about wanting to trade Randle and Jackson. They had a ****ing team meeting over it because Clarkson/Randle are starting to sulk.
Sorry but Cy is right on this one. Teams typically value cap space so they can obtain talent, and not the other way around — LA already has the kind of talent you look to accumulate with cap space in Kuzma. Trading him just to have the potential to add another piece would be silly. True, they gave up a former #2 pick to clear space, but that would be like saying we traded a #3 pick for spare parts. And while, yes, LA can land top-tier freee agents, remember the type of free agents they landed to get themselves into this mess — Deng and Mosgov.
They traded Russell because they had to get out of 1 of Mozgov/Deng. They no longer have to get out of Deng. They just have to extend and stretch him.
Why would they trade Kuzma, who is great, just to get rid of Deng when they can just trade Clarkson, who is selfish bench player? Just use common sense and take a second to read any of the articles that have come out about the stretch provision in regards to Deng.