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fishonjazz said:
And Julius randle been killing it lately. Younger, healthier, cheaper. Mirotic had another great game in the bucks last one. Younger, much cheaper. Tobias Harris was awesome again last night. Younger, healthier, cheaper.

I wanted the jazz to make a trade. There are many players I would like the jazz to try to acquire. Just about any point guard would have made me happy.

Apparently you only have eyes for the old, over paid, often injured guy. To each their own.

Of course if I were on the side of the discussion saying we should get Kevin love you would be saying things like "someone has to score on the worst team in the league", and "against the Knicks? Lol", and "his team is the worst in the league though"

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If you think the Jazz should get Julius Randle, you should just stop posting in general. I have never ONLY advocated for "Old, expensive" basketball players. In fact, Toby is my #1 hopeful for the Jazz. You also said all things great things but didn't post their stats :thinking:. K.Love is better, WAY BETTER, than Exum and not so much but an upgrade to Favors. I knew you would bring up the fact they played the Knicks LOL but that honestly does not matter. The first stats I posted he didn't play the Knicks and still killed it. He's going to continue killing it cause he's a good player. If there was no other option like Tobias, Mirotic, etc, would I trade Favors and Exum for K.Love? Hell yeah, and we should.
 
fishonjazz said:
One other thing.
My argument was never that Kevin love sucks.
He is a good player when healthy.
My argument is that he is a good player that is paid like he is LeBron, KD, Steph, kahwi, and that he is old and injury prone.

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Find me someone in the NBA that gets paid 11 million a year that averages 6 points, 2 assists, per game outside of Exum. Good luck. K.Love is better than Andrew Wiggins, KTOWNS, Nicolas Batum, Paul Milsap, Gordo, Derozan, and many other players that (some paid even MORE than him).
 
I just find it hilarious or maybe even sad that fans on this site are too scared to take a big risk like trading Favors/Exum for Conle, K.Love, Blake. They'd rather wait until the off-season where we get another terrible pick option, another g-league player, and a way past their prime vet every year.
 
I think it's more hilarious that there are users here that willingly trash a guy on their own team getting 9.6 million a year who struggles to stay healthy yet are fully ok with the idea of giving up assets to get a $28 - 32 mil guy on the wrong side of 30 who hasn't played 70+ games since 2016 just because he's good when healthy, especially since he has some real flaws that the team would have to accomodate for
 
Shad said:
Find me someone in the NBA that gets paid 11 million a year that averages 6 points, 2 assists, per game outside of Exum. Good luck. K.Love is better than Andrew Wiggins, KTOWNS, Nicolas Batum, Paul Milsap, Gordo, Derozan, and many other players that (some paid even MORE than him).
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Michel gets paid less than that. So does Ball. As does Tatum. Shall we go on?

He's putting up lower-tier rookie stats on a post-rookie contact. Bad argument bro.
 
Shad said:
If you think the Jazz should get Julius Randle, you should just stop posting in general. I have never ONLY advocated for "Old, expensive" basketball players. In fact, Toby is my #1 hopeful for the Jazz. You also said all things great things but didn't post their stats :thinking:. K.Love is better, WAY BETTER, than Exum and not so much but an upgrade to Favors. I knew you would bring up the fact they played the Knicks LOL but that honestly does not matter. The first stats I posted he didn't play the Knicks and still killed it. He's going to continue killing it cause he's a good player. If there was no other option like Tobias, Mirotic, etc, would I trade Favors and Exum for K.Love? Hell yeah, and we should.
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I didn't bring up that it was the Knicks or that he is putting up stats on a bad team. Those things don't matter to me. I said that is what you what bring up if I were the one on your side of the argument.
I honestly don't care. If a guy produces, he produces. Someone's guys play even better on good teams cause they have better teammates and coaches


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Shad said:
I just find it hilarious or maybe even sad that fans on this site are too scared to take a big risk like trading Favors/Exum for Conle, K.Love, Blake. They'd rather wait until the off-season where we get another terrible pick option, another g-league player, and a way past their prime vet every year.
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I was totally in favor of conley or Griffin. I've been one of the most vocal, and the earliest, posters advocating for DL to **** or get off the ****ing pot for YEARS now.

But holy hell, screw love.

He's well on his down-hill trajectory, has a well-documented history of injury and fading when it matters, and his ego caused friction with the greatest player to play the game in the last 20 years when they should have been an unstoppable Force. Oh and is maybe in the 20 to 40 range of top players anymore, but is getting paid like he's named Curry or durrant. No ****ing thanks.
 
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Shad said:
Find me someone in the NBA that gets paid 11 million a year that averages 6 points, 2 assists, per game outside of Exum. Good luck. K.Love is better than Andrew Wiggins, KTOWNS, Nicolas Batum, Paul Milsap, Gordo, Derozan, and many other players that (some paid even MORE than him).
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Dude. I'm an Exum hater. This discussion isn't about Exum. Why you trying to change the discussion?

As for him being better than other overpaid guys?
A:. I'm not advocating for picking up overpaid guys in general. Not just love.
B. He is either older, more injury prone, or higher paid than all the guys you mentioned.

Find me someone who makes as much as Kevin love for as long as his contract is who is as old as him and as injury prone. I won't want that guy either (if that guy even exists which I doubt)

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Shad said:
I just find it hilarious or maybe even sad that fans on this site are too scared to take a big risk like trading Favors/Exum for Conle, K.Love, Blake. They'd rather wait until the off-season where we get another terrible pick option, another g-league player, and a way past their prime vet every year.
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Lol. This is about love. You want to talk Conley? I was for that trade. Blake? Please get him.
Love, no thanks.

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fishonjazz said:
Dude. I'm an Exum hater. This discussion isn't about Exum. Why you trying to change the discussion?

As for him being better than other overpaid guys?
A:. I'm not advocating for picking up overpaid guys in general. Not just love.
B. He is either older, more injury prone, or higher paid than all the guys you mentioned.

Find me someone who makes as much as Kevin love for as long as his contract is who is as old as him and as injury prone. I won't want that guy either (if that guy even exists which I doubt)

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He exists and it's easy. Chris Paul. Thanks
 
Shad said:
He exists and it's easy. Chris Paul. Thanks
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Exactly.
I don't want that insane contract on a guy that age.
I would rather have Kevin love on his deal tbh
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Shad said:
Find me someone in the NBA that gets paid 11 million a year that averages 6 points, 2 assists, per game outside of Exum. Good luck. K.Love is better than Andrew Wiggins, KTOWNS, Nicolas Batum, Paul Milsap, Gordo, Derozan, and many other players that (some paid even MORE than him).
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U keep going on bout stats. He hasn't had a chance to do anything besides the month before he got injured. U people don't understand basketball. People score more ect depending on their role. So like of course Donovan is going to score for eg cause he shoots 20 times a game. People like you have no idea!!!
 
Jazz said:
U keep going on bout stats. He hasn't had a chance to do anything besides the month before he got injured. U people don't understand basketball. People score more ect depending on their role. So like of course Donovan is going to score for eg cause he shoots 20 times a game. People like you have no idea!!!
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I have no idea LOL. Showing, telling, and watching someone play makes you "have no idea' basketball. Got it. Usually people who are meant to score, shoot the ball more. Efficiency also plays a huge role. Dumbass.
 
Shad said:
I have no idea LOL. Showing, telling, and watching someone play makes you "have no idea' basketball. Got it. Usually people who are meant to score, shoot the ball more. Efficiency also plays a huge role. Dumbass.
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Is Donovan efficient
 
Shad said:
I have no idea LOL. Showing, telling, and watching someone play makes you "have no idea' basketball. Got it. Usually people who are meant to score, shoot the ball more. Efficiency also plays a huge role. Dumbass.
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You obviously don't watch him play cause if U did. U would understand he's never played his game besides that month.
 
Jazz said:
You obviously don't watch him play cause if U did. U would understand he's never played his game besides that month.
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I hope you're not talking about Exum. There's a reason why he got DNP's when he was healthy my dude. Did you forget about that?
 
Shad said:
I hope you're not talking about Exum. There's a reason why he got DNP's when he was healthy my dude. Did you forget about that?
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Why was that? Cause he was told to stand in the corner and shoot 3 not his game
 
Jazz said:
So does that mean U think Donovan should have a smaller role cause he's not efficient
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Smaller? No. Opening his game more? Yes. He's still new to the league but needs to find his team more. We played Dallas this year and our last 10 plays guess what happened? Donvan got the ball NINE out of TEN times and never passed the ball ONCE. I think that is a major flaw he has. Did you also know he is DEAD LAST in the nba at finishing in the paint. DEAD. LAST.
 
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