2020 NBA trade deadline discussion

[NUMBERICA]

Doesn't he have a horrendous shot? Like Dante bad?

Probably worse. But maybe with his role, experience, and skillset, he is less of a risk and brings other things to the table. I was very low on MKG coming out of the draft and I haven't followed him, but I would think he'd be an upgrade over Dante, which is frankly hard not to be

 

[NUMBERICA]

This fascination with Taj Gibson makes very little sense to me. If he was on a one-year deal, then I could see the utility in his expiring contract. He shouldn't play next to Gobert and is he twice as good as Ed Davis, being 6' 8" and 34 years old or whatever?

 

[infection]

Anyone swap Dante for Andre Roberson? Not sure about when he’s due back, but he’d be what we’re hoping Dante is except he can guard Kawhis and LeBrons.

 

[infection]

I’m not a big proponent of moving Joe, and apparently there may be some restriction in doing so this season, but if 1) we insist he’s a bench guy and 2) he can be moved, then I think Ingles/Exum for Otto Porter (not sure why Chicago would do it) would be a move that puts us close. Great three point shooter. Good defender. Has the size to at least put a body on Kawhi and LeBron (more so than anyone we have). Has shown he’s been a decent rebounder in the past. Can start and close. Was also someone DL targeted before and we know how he gets tunnel vision.

 

[jom2003]

Why would they trade him though? And why would they trade him for anything we could offer?

Cuz Bertans will be a free agent in the summer and Wiz is still trying to figure out if they wanna go the full rebuild because they technically still got the Wall/Beal duo to stay competitive but Wall’s injury history is a huge concern.

If they don't see Bertans as part of their future, they may wanna maximize his value by the trade deadline. Ed Davis(who is on a very team friendly contract for 2 yr, enough for the Wiz to figure out what to do when Wall comes back next year) + picks may get it done. We've got Bradley who can cover at the backup C position.

 

[SCS]

Doesn't he have a horrendous shot? Like Dante bad?

Kidd-Gilchrist shot form is about as ugly as you'll ever see, yes. He has had a few seasons where he shot a decent percentage from 3 on a low amount of attempts (43% on 1 3 attempt per in 15-16, 34% on 0.7 attempt per in 18-19). But he's not a shooter.

I think that's fine though. The idea in theory is that he would add athleticism, defense, rebounding, hustle in the minutes where Niang is providing nothing.

Another thing is that he's a 26 year old former #2 overall pick who has been on one bad basketball team for his entire career. He'll never be a star but maybe there's still some potential there. Maybe simply being on a good basketball team with good players would change some things.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Kidd-Gilchrist shot form is about as ugly as you'll ever see, yes. He has had a few seasons where he shot a decent percentage from 3 on a low amount of attempts (43% on 1 3 attempt per in 15-16, 34% on 0.7 attempt per in 18-19). But he's not a shooter.

I think that's fine though. The idea in theory is that he would add athleticism, defense, rebounding, hustle in the minutes where Niang is providing nothing.

Another thing is that he's a 26 year old former #2 overall pick who has been on one bad basketball team for his entire career. He'll never be a star but maybe there's still some potential there. Maybe simply being on a good basketball team with good players would change some things.

I'd rather play Niang.

 

[SCS]

I'd rather play Niang.

Playing Niang is the Jazz playing at a literal 4 on 5 disadvantage. He does nothing.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Playing Niang is the Jazz playing at a literal 4 on 5 disadvantage. He does nothing.

he can shoot

 

[SCS]

he can shoot

We run no plays to get him open 3's. So it does not matter. He takes 1.8 threes per game and only makes 0.7 per game.

Meanwhile...

He sucks on defense. 109 DRtg.

He can't rebound. Only 5.4 Drbs per 36

He does not create extra possessions. 0.1 Orbs per game, 0.2 Orbs per 36, 0.6 Orb%. 0.0 steals, NONE in all of his minutes all season. 0.1 Bpg

He's a non factor inside the arc. No post game, no drive game, does not draw fouls or get to line.

Commits boneheaded fouls

0.5 ast/0.5 to

-55

We're playing him for 0.7 threes per game when he's such a negative everywhere else? C'mon. He gives us nothing bro

 

[416Klawzz]

he can shoot

Yeah once in a blue moon

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah once in a blue moon

He shoots 39%....

 

[infection]

Here’s my full makeover:

Conley for a Kevin Love.
Exum/Ingles for OPJ

Donovan / Mudiay
OPJ / Royce
Bojan / Oni
Love / Green
Gobert / Davis

Bring up the two two-ways.

 

[infection]

Or...

Conley for OPJ
Exum/Bradley for Morris

Mitchell / Mudiay
Ingles / Royce
Bojan / Oni
OPJ / Morris
Gobert / Davis

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I've been saying I like JWF's potential. I could see the Knicks asking about him. He played college ball in Long Island, and to be honest, I think he's better than Dennis Smith Jr.

 

[infection]

I've been saying I like JWF's potential. I could see the Knicks asking about him. He played college ball in Long Island, and to be honest, I think he's better than Dennis Smith Jr.

Can you trade two-ways?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Can you trade two-ways?

I think so. They may need to sign him to a guaranteed deal as part of the trade, but we have rights to our two-ways.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

We run no plays to get him open 3's. So it does not matter. He takes 1.8 threes per game and only makes 0.7 per game.

Meanwhile...

He sucks on defense. 109 DRtg.

He can't rebound. Only 5.4 Drbs per 36

He does not create extra possessions. 0.1 Orbs per game, 0.2 Orbs per 36, 0.6 Orb%. 0.0 steals, NONE in all of his minutes all season. 0.1 Bpg

He's a non factor inside the arc. No post game, no drive game, does not draw fouls or get to line.

Commits boneheaded fouls

0.5 ast/0.5 to

-55

We're playing him for 0.7 threes per game when he's such a negative everywhere else? C'mon. He gives us nothing bro

He's a stop-gap player who makes corner 3s, knows the Jazz's system, and doesn't screw things up too much. He's third string, basically.

 

[NUMBERICA]

He shoots 39%....

Less than one a game. And he doesn't play every game.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Less than one a game. And he doesn't play every game.

Ok, but he's always a shooting threat.