Jazz Offseason Plan

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Making Sense Of Latest Jazz Rumors

Matt Moore of the Action Network reported a series of rumors surrounding the Utah Jazz in his latest offseason article.

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Ben Anderson with an interesting take here — thinks moving Bogey is MORE likely if Conley STAYS. I had always thought in terms of a trade being more likely if Conley left, because we’d need to acquire a PG. Ben seems to think Ingles would play PG and we’d need to keep Bogey for his scoring.

The thought of Ingles as our primary PG seems disastrous to me, but what do I know?

Ingles at PG might be the worst idea I’ve heard this offseason.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Ingles at PG might be the worst idea I’ve heard this offseason.

If Conley leaves that is the fallback. It's really DM and Ingles at PG. That lineup has been great for a couple years now. We'd need a good, for-real, backup pg if this happens.

If Conley bails the options get pretty sucky.

 

[Hekate]

Not sure if anyone saw this yet but I'd be on board with 2 of these.

Indiana Pacers: 3 trade ideas to reunite with Bojan Bogdanovic

The Indiana Pacers need some upgrades this offseason. A reunion with former Pacer Bojan Bogdanovic, who is gettable, makes a lot of sense.

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I would do the second trade immediately. Turning Bogey into 2 serviceable players along with 13th pick who could be long-term piece or trading asset is pretty great.

 

[Jingled]

Ingles at PG might be the worst idea I’ve heard this offseason.

The Mitchell/Ingles/O'Neale/Bogey/Gobert lineup with Mitchell and Ingles sharing ballhandling duties has been one of our best lineups the past two seasons.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I would do the second trade immediately. Turning Bogey into 2 serviceable players along with 13th pick who could be long-term piece or trading asset is pretty great.

Lamb is a solid buy low guy. I like the potential fit next to Donovan if he can stay healthy. Might need to move JC for something different. Holiday is more of a sg/sf... Lamb is a sg... JC ain't a point guard. I'd see if OKC wanted to flip the 13th for the 18/34 and swap Favs and Kenrich Williams. I'm not really in love with anyone at 13 range.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I would do the second trade immediately. Turning Bogey into 2 serviceable players along with 13th pick who could be long-term piece or trading asset is pretty great.

Just make it a super trade... Bojan/JC #30 for Warren/Lamb/Holiday #13.

 

[idiot]

Lamb is a solid buy low guy. I like the potential fit next to Donovan if he can stay healthy. Might need to move JC for something different. Holiday is more of a sg/sf... Lamb is a sg... JC ain't a point guard. I'd see if OKC wanted to flip the 13th for the 18/34 and swap Favs and Kenrich Williams. I'm not really in love with anyone at 13 range.

Out of the Indiana bunch, I think it may be Aaron Holiday who's the buy-low guy. He's just coming off a bad third year, having been displaced by TG McConnell as the key backup PG.

 

[idiot]

Just make it a super trade... Bojan/JC #30 for Warren/Lamb/Holiday #13.

Bogey & Clarkson are true distributors in comparison to Warren. Not sure I see Warren as a good fit scheme-wise.

 

[Hekate]

Lamb is a solid buy low guy. I like the potential fit next to Donovan if he can stay healthy. Might need to move JC for something different. Holiday is more of a sg/sf... Lamb is a sg... JC ain't a point guard. I'd see if OKC wanted to flip the 13th for the 18/34 and swap Favs and Kenrich Williams. I'm not really in love with anyone at 13 range.

Lamb is not a great defender but he is much better than JC. If you can sell kinda high on JC, I would feel comfortable with Lamb as a JC replacement. He will not score as much or create same way but Quin's offense is going to get him looks. He can play with both Mitchell and Conley, so that's a plus. 13 can be flipped but I would love to see how draft went. I like a few guys there.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Bogey & Clarkson are true distributors in comparison to Warren. Not sure I see Warren as a good fit scheme-wise.

Prolly not

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Lamb is not a great defender but he is much better than JC. If you can sell kinda high on JC, I would feel comfortable with Lamb as a JC replacement. He will not score as much or create same way but Quin's offense is going to get him looks. He can play with both Mitchell and Conley, so that's a plus. 13 can be flipped but I would love to see how draft went. I like a few guys there.

I like him... good effective scorer and just more well rounded. His length would help on the glass and he gets steals/deflections... something we really need. I like him.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Out of the Indiana bunch, I think it may be Aaron Holiday who's the buy-low guy. He's just coming off a bad third year, having been displaced by TG McConnell as the key backup PG.

Not a huge Holiday fan... I think he ends up being a solid backup. Lamb could be a starter level guy or a 6th man candidate type. I mean if they don't want Holiday I'd take him.

 

[idiot]

Lamb is not a great defender but he is much better than JC. If you can sell kinda high on JC, I would feel comfortable with Lamb as a JC replacement. He will not score as much or create same way but Quin's offense is going to get him looks. He can play with both Mitchell and Conley, so that's a plus. 13 can be flipped but I would love to see how draft went. I like a few guys there.

I like him... good effective scorer and just more well rounded. His length would help on the glass and he gets steals/deflections... something we really need. I like him.

Can't get rid of the suspicion that he's the guy we supposedly had lined up to sign along with Mirotic before we had to pivot to Bogey a couple summers ago. Don't know if we would have fared better overall with that original plan than the one we ended up with. One thing for sure: both are much better rebounders than Bogey. Interesting to think about the "what ifs ..."

Of course, Lamb hasn't been able to stay healthy the past two years.

 

[LoPo]

No... the numbers for luxury tax purposes freeze at some point. They take a snapshot.

Thanks. So we use 21-22 contract numbers to base the draft day trades?

I really wish the draft was after the start of free agency.

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[Hearsky]

Good for you. Should have been a blessing then. People in Alabama are fat asses.

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Fixed.

 

[LoPo]

Fixed.

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[Ron Mexico]

We had the best record in the NBA mostly due to early health. We lost that luck battle towards the end and in the playoffs. I think if we are healthy in the regular season we coast to the #1 seed and have a much more healthy team. With Mitchell, Conley, and Gobert healthy I think we beat the Clippers. Against Phoenix I think its a tough matchup that could go either way. Despite the disappointment from choking in game 6, we were very close.

We should always make a trade that makes us better. If a good trade for better players or better fit players comes along, make it. I doubt that happens. But we should be aggressive and look at every option.

There is no way you trade Gobert unless there is something way bigger going on behind closed doors we dont know about. His impact is huge in the regular season and playoffs.

Beyond that we try to run it back and add in a decent player for our over the tax MLE, BAE, or whatever we have. Then we need to add as many vet min as we can and trade our pick for a vet. Give Snyder more options in the regular season and different looks come playoff time. Snyder also needs to pull starters earlier, which means he needs to trust the bench more.

Favors is included in the trade option for a better player. Do not dump him for nothing this year though. Our ownership will pay the tax this year and probably again if we make the finals or are really close in WCF. But he was really good this year and we need that type of player. For all the hate on him he was very good in the regular season and solid in the playoffs. He was better than Gobert for a decent amount of the Griz series. He played well early against Clippers before struggling like a lot of the team. But keep in mind in the playoffs Favors was our 4th best in PER, 2nd best defensive rating, and 3rd best net rating. He was our best offensive rebounder and his overall rebounding percentage was just barely behind Gobert and way above anyone else. He lead our team in block %. His W/S per 48 were only behind Gobert (#1) and Mitchell (Conley was also barely ahead but doesnt qualify.) We could possibly get someone cheaper for him but I doubt its a better player and there isnt something we can do with his money if he is dumped for nothing. That said if we can get a decent player that helps for him or we can package him with other players/pick to get a better player of course we should. I am worried about his health, I wish we actually knew what was going on.

I still like Oni despite the playoffs overwhelming him. I think he has tools to be a good 3 and D player. I think Niang is great as a towards the end of the bench rotation guy but we need different vet options than these two in the playoffs.

Personally I think the player we should look at trading first is Clarkson I think he had the lowest impact for his expectations in the playoffs. He was shooting really hot for awhile but he just isnt a good shooter or decision maker and hurts the bench more than he helps. But I do like his role of getting baskets when we are struggling. If we can trade him for a better wing defender and let Ingles run the bench more we are better off. The next one that could net us something is Bojan. But I think we are hard pressed to get a better player or even better fit.

 

[LoPo]

New Orleans probably won't match anything big Lonzo gets. They want Lowry. I don't think we have a great shot at him, but you never know.

Pelicans interested in Kyle Lowry amid Lonzo Ball free agency rumors

The Pelicans are apparently eyeing free-agent-to-be Kyle Lowry. There is “rising buzz” New Orleans will target the 35-year-old Raptors point guard when he hits the open market in August…

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[whatthe]

I want Lauri. I think his defensive flaws would be covered by Rudy. He is a better defender than Bogey and a better offensive player than Favs.

 

[LoPo]

I want Lauri. I think his defensive flaws would be covered by Rudy. He is a better defender than Bogey and a better offensive player than Favs.

He would have to be a sign-and-trade correct?