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Woj: Jazz agree to 3-team trade with Lakers and Timberwolves

If we give up any picks for a package that gets us Russ as a buy out and the 2 Lakers picks I still see that as a fail. We would need another young piece at least for us to even consider being a team giving draft compensation in this deal.
Yep. We definitely should not be giving up a 1st in any scenario.
 
Yeah... we are likely trading Mike for value... and he did help the young guys. Waiving Russ stops a sideshow and if he was effing awesome he wouldn't stay anyway. Its really not the same.

I'm talking about the decision to keep Mike versus keeping WB. If the money was the same, meaning Mike did not have an additional year, it would be a very similar value proposition in terms of what you gain/lose by waiving or keeping them.

Ask yourself this, if Mike Conley did have a one year contract and no additional years and we did not trade him....should we waive him on the spot?
 
It is stupid....but it's actually not too dissimilar from those who wanted to cling onto Conley. The best move forward for the franchise is probably to waive him, just as I said the Jazz were better off without Conley at all. But it's not like getting these old PG's out the door is super critical anyways. If Conley was on a one year deal right now, would we be so adamant about waiving him? I guess I don't really see a difference in the two as far as what it means for the franchise. The difference for me personally, is that WB would be a million times more fun....well maybe not fun but interesting to watch for the remaining games.

And as we all know, the most important thing is to prevent Sexton from getting a crack cocaine dose of being the starter :p

Conley's one of the best locker room and culture guys in the entire league, a great mentor for the young guy's. Westbrook is the polar opposite, and would most likely be toxic in the locker room. I don't blame the Jazz for not wanting Westbrook anywhere near this team.
 
Yep. We definitely should not be giving up a 1st in any scenario.
No I am pretty certain there are plenty of scenarios Danny would give up the first in the late 20's . This Westbrick Dlo proposal is trash though, and has no chance of that being the case.
 
I'm talking about the decision to keep Mike versus keeping WB. If the money was the same, meaning Mike did not have an additional year, it would be a very similar value proposition in terms of what you gain/lose by waiving or keeping them.

Ask yourself this, if Mike Conley did have a one year contract and no additional years and we did not trade him....should we waive him on the spot?
Mike and Russ are not the same. the evaluation is not the same. Russ is prickly (to put it mildly) and Mike has never had a technical. So no you don't cut Mike... unless he wanted out.
 
Yep. We definitely should not be giving up a 1st in any scenario.
Or draft compensation at all unless young guys come back. The idea this would be hinging on us adding protections to the Rudy trade or giving a pick back there is laughable. Go see LA about that **** and GTFO with Utah
 
My guess is going to be Utah caves a bit and gives up one of the swap rights back to Minny so the deal can get pushed through.
 
Conley's one of the best locker room and culture guys in the entire league, a great mentor for the young guy's. Westbrook is the polar opposite, and would most likely be toxic in the locker room. I don't blame the Jazz for not wanting Westbrook anywhere near this team.

I disagree with this. I don't think WB would be a toxic player in the locker room, and he is notorious for his hard work ethic and is well respected amongst players. Mike Conley might be well respected, but RWB is a different level. Playing with LeBron might not be the right situation for him, but there's a reason why LeBron wanted him and they loved him in WAS. His beefs have always been with the on court situation, and UTA is honestly not a bad on court situation for him.

Anyways, it's just kinda funny that WB is a complete, 100% non-discussion when people were dragging their feet about Conley. Some of the reasons against RWB sound really familiar to the reasons to keep Conley. One of the reasons why is because he might actually help us win a couple more games. But also Mike is indispensable to some because he could help us win a couple more games. I don't have a strong opinion on whether or not you keep the veteran PG who might help you win more versus waiving them and giving time to the young players and getting a higher draft spot or two. Whatever you prefer, you prefer. But for me it's not that different between Conley and WB. I think WB would be much more entertaining and intriguing to watch.
 
Teams are calling big time now so maybe someone folds and we get some value , but this deal seemed doa imo. If it does go down there has to be more value coming our way than what is being reported or proposed or Danny is not Danny.
 
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