2023 Mock Draft - Take 1

[Eddie Zero]

I’d bet $100 he doesn’t slide to the late first.

early 20's then ? he could easily be seen as a long term pick with the way he struggles against length and athleticism. he needs another year in college to be a lottery pick and anyone advising him otherwise just wants him drafted before he breaks a finger or some **** lol

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He has the baseline tools, just lacks the NBA body and athletic skill, to help us much for awhile. He needs to model his game after Franz down in Orlando imo. He just does not have that mobility.
He struggled against any kind of special attention, and should have overcome it fairly easy if he was lottery pick level, especially with his head height and shooting stroke. He basically failed to do that when it mattered most.
I like him as a long term project that has a very high ceiling if he goes to the right situation, but unfortunate for him is right now he is a pretty low floor shooting specialist that needs better options in front of him to get him open.
We need 1 or hopefully 2 picked in the lottery that can get their own shot and make their own shot, while also being + defenders and able to make others better . Anything short of all those traits and I am trading back or trying to use the picks to get a vet instead.
Dick is an early 20's upside prospect at this juncture for me, even if someone reaches on his potential

Are you and tremendous upside related?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You said you wouldn’t even take him in the first round at all. That was appalling to me. That’s it. He’s likely in the 16-25 range.

And I stand by that take still... and I'm fine with you having him where you do even though I disagree... I commend you for taking him in the draft and standing by you opinion. I just think its funny that @Saint Cy of JFC was high on him... and then passed on him a couple times when it would have been really easy to take him.

Its like when all the reports came out that the Jazz were high on Dort in the draft... then you realize he went undrafted and we had 3 picks in the 50s and passed on him every time... like how high were we on Dort if we kept passing on him?

I believe that you like Flip and have no problem with it... I just disagree.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Are you and tremendous upside related?

you mean thinking outside the box is related to stubborn trolling?
c'mon man I am saying it how it is, not how it should be.
You want to keep playing the pretend game about this **** its your loss later.
Half these kids are busts based on simply being unable to execute their skills against better players.
I said I like him early 20's as far as my valuatiion. You probably think that means I think he will go there right?
Here is a tip: You suck Dick suck lol

 

[default]

So who is picking next? We should be close to Utah again.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

So who is picking next? We should be close to Utah again.

It's over.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

you mean thinking outside the box is related to stubborn trolling?
c'mon man I am saying it how it is, not how it should be.
You want to keep playing the pretend game about this **** its your loss later.
Half these kids are busts based on simply being unable to execute their skills against better players.
I said I like him early 20's as far as my valuatiion. You probably think that means I think he will go there right?
Here is a tip: You suck Dick suck lol

Was a simple question

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's over.

Should we go 2 rounds?

 

[Elizah Huge]

And I stand by that take still... and I'm fine with you having him where you do even though I disagree... I commend you for taking him in the draft and standing by you opinion. I just think its funny that @Saint Cy of JFC was high on him... and then passed on him a couple times when it would have been really easy to take him.

Its like when all the reports came out that the Jazz were high on Dort in the draft... then you realize he went undrafted and we had 3 picks in the 50s and passed on him every time... like how high were we on Dort if we kept passing on him?

I believe that you like Flip and have no problem with it... I just disagree.

Lol the Dort stuff still makes me laugh. Anyways the Flip thing will be fun to monitor.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Let’s do a spin on Tankathon and do the first round again.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Lol the Dort stuff still makes me laugh. Anyways the Flip thing will be fun to monitor.

I wonder if he goes back to school... will see where his stock is... would not surprise me.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Should we go 2 rounds?

Thank god the Jazz don't have second rounders.. I'd have to bow out.

Let’s do a spin on Tankathon and do the first round again.

I'm in.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Thank god the Jazz don't have second rounders.. I'd have to bow out.

I'm in.

Need to change teams tho. Don't want to draft for same teams each time

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Need to change teams tho. Don't want to draft for same teams each time

Speak for yourself.


Thanks for putting this together @Ferguson_Mellochill What are your thoughts?

 

[Elizah Huge]

I wonder if he goes back to school... will see where his stock is... would not surprise me.

Would actually not be a bad idea if he was getting feedback for the late first/early second. Go back and be in contention for NPOY and maybe become a lottery pick.

 

[RandyForRubio]

early 20's then ? he could easily be seen as a long term pick with the way he struggles against length and athleticism. he needs another year in college to be a lottery pick and anyone advising him otherwise just wants him drafted before he breaks a finger or some **** lol

He’s a great shooter with great size, capable athlete, and young. How often do guys like that go much outside of the lottery? Practically never.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Speak for yourself.


Thanks for putting this together @Ferguson_Mellochill What are your thoughts?

I had to actually do some work today, am catching up....

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I didn't think about the 2nd round, and some of the teams that didn't have a FRP would have picks. We would need to re-assign some teams. If there are people who want to do a 2nd round, I'd suggest doing an entirely new draft so people know what they're signing up for. I'd suggest just starting over with a Mock 2, and if you're die-hard enough to do 60s picks (eh, 58) you can sign up for both rounds.

Also, the draft order is changing meaningfully on a daily basis, let alone the lottery spins, so we could do other drafts and see how differently they shake out. Overall, I thought we could do a couple of these.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Let's do some wrap-up analysis on this draft before moving on. A few thoughts I have:
** I don't think Gradey Dick goes ahead of Whitmore or Walker. Maybe his range starts around 8 or 9, but that might be aggressive, imo.
** I think Toronto is in the market for a guard/initiator, and I think they'd take Keyonte George or JHS over a shooter like Hawkins.
** I think that if the Jazz don't take a big wing in this draft, they'd take one of the pure-scorer types like Sensabaugh or maybe Hawkins who can stretch the floor. I don't think they'd take two guards back to back.
** I don't think Nick Smith would fall that far unless there's a medical issue. Whitehead at #29 is probably too low as well.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I didn't think about the 2nd round, and some of the teams that didn't have a FRP would have picks. We would need to re-assign some teams. If there are people who want to do a 2nd round, I'd suggest doing an entirely new draft so people know what they're signing up for. I'd suggest just starting over with a Mock 2, and if you're die-hard enough to do 60s picks (eh, 58) you can sign up for both rounds.

Also, the draft order is changing meaningfully on a daily basis, let alone the lottery spins, so we could do other drafts and see how differently they shake out. Overall, I thought we could do a couple of these.

Pass on second round... Jazz don't have a pick... no thanks.