Yeah, I'm not an expert. And I'm not trying to crap on your position for whatever that is worth.Defense must be falling asleep a lot with the amount of his rim attempts and rim finishing numbers.
Anytime I mention Ochai and a trade I am labeled a hater. He is more attractive than Lyles imo... but I was not a fan of Lyles.Is Ochai more or less attractive of a trade bait than Trey Lyles was when we used him to trade up for Mitchell?
The Bilal stuff just seems like a smoke screen to me. They know OKC is very interested and trying to get something from them. Bilal is the opposite prospect you pick if you are trying to go through a quick rebuild, which our org keeps saying they don't want a long process.
Anytime I mention Ochai and a trade I am labeled a hater. He is more attractive than Lyles imo... but I was not a fan of Lyles.
Whoever you pick at 9 isn't likely to be a huge contributor early so the short term approach doesn't really make sense. If we are to believe the quick turnaround stuff it's probably more applicable to how they approach free agency and trades.
You could argue Bilal is the most advanced defender and therefore the closest to contributing.
Yeah, I think the move is to find a good stop-gap (vet) PG but be grooming someone we draft in the meantime.I think Bilal could fall to 16. I think the interwebs draft gurus and fans are likely a bit higher on him than NBA front offices. Rather than take him at 9 I'd look to move back and chance it that he will be there at 12 or 13. If he isn't then Wallace, Black, or Dick will be.
We don't have to get a pg... I agree... just not sure where our pgotf comes from if we don't draft one this year. Unless they think they can nab FVV or Quickley then I would recommend drafting the pg at 9... bunch of ways we could go at 16 including trading back, miller or taking a combo guard. At 9 I'm not getting cute and taking BPA. IF they think Bilal is that then go for it.
Every time I’m ready to check out for a week some random rumor sucks me back in for a few days. I’m ready to start the draft… it’s go time.
We are in a stage of our rebuild that IMO very few players should be untouchable. Ochai is not among them IMO, even though I like him... If he can get us to say... no. 5 for a player Ainge and Zanik really love... then so be it... we still need THE guy! Look at the playoffs and the type of players you need in order to fight for a title. IMO we still don't have THAT guy.Anytime I mention Ochai and a trade I am labeled a hater. He is more attractive than Lyles imo... but I was not a fan of Lyles.
A Black/George draft would be pretty nice tbh.
Also… are we sure we have a good rapport with Bilal’s agent? Sounds like Rudy is a little salty we traded him.
I'm sorry for the pain that is coming your way... and I feel the same way FYI... I just fought this battle and some think Ochai is the second coming of Klay Thompson.We are in a stage of our rebuild that IMO very few players should be untouchable. Ochai is not among them IMO, even though I like him... If he can get us to say... no. 5 for a player Ainge and Zanik really love... then so be it...
Black going #4 is ideal for us because it pushed someone down? Or trading up to #4 and taking Black is a good scenario?Black is in Houston for a workout today. If we’re talking about super ideal trade up scenarios for us him going 4 is one of them.
Pushes guys down. I would trade up for Black if we decided he’s our guy but likely at 6/7. Him going 4 pushes Whitmore and Amen down an extra spot.Black going #4 is ideal for us because it pushed someone down? Or trading up to #4 and taking Black is a good scenario?
Which is why we need to try and trade up into the top threeWe are in a stage of our rebuild that IMO very few players should be untouchable. Ochai is not among them IMO, even though I like him... If he can get us to say... no. 5 for a player Ainge and Zanik really love... then so be it... we still need THE guy! Look at the playoffs and the type of players you need in order to fight for a title. IMO we still don't have THAT guy.
We are in a stage of our rebuild that IMO very few players should be untouchable. Ochai is not among them IMO, even though I like him... If he can get us to say... no. 5 for a player Ainge and Zanik really love... then so be it... we still need THE guy! Look at the playoffs and the type of players you need in order to fight for a title. IMO we still don't have THAT guy.
I'm sorry for the pain that is coming your way... and I feel the same way FYI... I just fought this battle and some think Ochai is the second coming of Klay Thompson.