Douchebag K
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well there you go. And people wonder why there can't be peace
Israel-Hamas War
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well there you go. And people wonder why there can't be peace
Fosto
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It's between that, or the continued ethnic cleansing of the native population.
Douchebag K
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i don't think you really know what ethnic cleansing is
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So you agree that this war (between palestine and israel) is different from, say, the US iraq war.
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Fosto
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I do. It's the removal of a native population in order to make room for another ethnicity to create their own state. You know, how Israel was created, and continues to expand. You don't see it, because you don't see the Palestinians as people.
Douchebag K
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The creation of Israel was certainly a mess and unfair to the native population for sure. Unfortunately you can't go back in time. So are non-Jews able to be citizens of Israel ? What rights are non-Jewish inhabitants of Israel deprived of ?
As for your last sentence shove that up your clacker pal.
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SteakNEggs
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Says the guy who has to resort to ad hominem attacks instead of debate.
Fosto
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What does this have to do with the discussion at hand? You can call ethnic cleansing "unfair to the native population" if you wish, but it doesn't change what it is. Neither does it change the fact Israel continues to build illegal settlements in the West Bank, with the expressed goal of making Palestinian statehood impossible. If that is not ethnic cleansing, then I don't know what is. THAT, and the numerous other forms of violence and oppression Palestinians suffer from on daily basis, is why peace is impossible.
I don't care that Israel allows non-Jews to become citizens. And I'm not sure why you think this is somehow noteworthy. Israel can achieve peace now by simply giving Palestinians citizenship. But they wouldn't. They call it the "demographic problem". Which is the idea that Jews must always be a great majority, and thus in control of the country. Yeah, they say the quiet part out loud.
Again, all of this would be obvious, if you saw the Palestinians as equals.
SteakNEggs
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**** around and find out huh? Screaming for genocide...It's happening again and it seems like we know which side many are on. People bringing up Hitler while their openly making excuses for **** like this. I mean people are saying Israel deserved this, right? How far down the rabbit hole do some Socialist Democrats wanna go?
The Australian police have reportedly launched an investigation after a large group of anti-Israel protesters stood on the steps of the Sydney Opera House and chanted, "Gas the Jews." The phrase is in reference to Jewish people being forced into gas chambers under Hitler's rule during WWI
View: https://twitter.com/AustralianJA/status/1711501583295680694?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1711501583295680694%7Ctwgr%5Ec814f320f4ef24da2fe24561ec7ecee27d681800%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fanti-israel-protesters-appear-on-the-steps-of-sydney-opera-house-chanting-gas-the-jews
The Australian police have reportedly launched an investigation after a large group of anti-Israel protesters stood on the steps of the Sydney Opera House and chanted, "Gas the Jews." The phrase is in reference to Jewish people being forced into gas chambers under Hitler's rule during WWI
View: https://twitter.com/AustralianJA/status/1711501583295680694?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1711501583295680694%7Ctwgr%5Ec814f320f4ef24da2fe24561ec7ecee27d681800%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fanti-israel-protesters-appear-on-the-steps-of-sydney-opera-house-chanting-gas-the-jews
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It is different from the war under GHB in every facet I listed. Towards the end of the Iraqi occupation, it was slightly less different.
SteakNEggs
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Joe Biden on Tuesday pledged unflinching support for Israel, calling the assault by Hamas militants that left nearly 1,000 people dead an “act of sheer evil” and confirming that some US citizens are part of the many currently being held hostage.
View: https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/10/joe-biden-we-stand-with-israel-hamas-attacks-vpx.cnn
Gaza under 'complete siege' with no food or fuel as Hamas branded 'animals'
GAZA is under “complete siege” with no access to electricity, food or fuel as Israel meted out brutal punishment on the region and branded Hamas…
www.thenational.scot
Odd how "complete control" doesn't include the ability to generate electricity nor fresh water.
Mapping Israeli occupation
Thirteen maps explain how Israel’s military control over the Palestinian people affects every aspect of their lives.
It's clear for those who don't avert their eyes.
No one on this board has said that Israel 'deserved" this. It was predictable.
SteakNEggs
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First time I've ever agreed with this woman. It is repugnant. Some call it daft.
"I've seen some of those statements this weekend, and we're going to continue to be very clear. We believe they're wrong, we believe they're repugnant, and we believe they're disgraceful," Jean-Pierre said when asked for the administration's reaction to comments made by Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. and Rep. Cori Bush, D-Mo.
"Our condemnation belongs squarely with terrorists who have brutally murdered, raped, kidnapped hundreds, hundreds of Israelis. There can be no equivocation about that. There are not two sides here. There are not two sides," she added.
"I've seen some of those statements this weekend, and we're going to continue to be very clear. We believe they're wrong, we believe they're repugnant, and we believe they're disgraceful," Jean-Pierre said when asked for the administration's reaction to comments made by Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. and Rep. Cori Bush, D-Mo.
"Our condemnation belongs squarely with terrorists who have brutally murdered, raped, kidnapped hundreds, hundreds of Israelis. There can be no equivocation about that. There are not two sides here. There are not two sides," she added.
Just as much as the Palestinian ones do, except for them, cruelty at the hands of Israelis is an every day event.
SteakNEggs
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Israelis are decapitating babies? And no it's not. I've already proven you guys are lying about everyday murders. Crazy thing is everyday Palestinians are more slaves to Hamas than Israel. You don't give a damn about that though huh? Just those damn Jews...
Al-O-Meter
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That is what happens when you elect a government that only wants to kill Jews rather than build infrastructure. Israel even gave the Palestinians in Gaza a power plant when they left but it is hard to keep operating when 100% of your budget goes to arms to kill Jews. Once again, the West Bank doesn't have this problem because the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank aren't Hamas.
Your knowledge of the Australian political scene is indeed completely worthless. Im not even going to bothering illustrating the numerous ways in which you are completely ignorant of the local situation.
SteakNEggs
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Thanks for letting me know. You can never explain anything ever so color me surprised that you blame me for your lack of knowledge. It's typical. Next time just keep it to yourself please. I don't care if you want to ignore me. Just do it. Like you need my permission.