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The Thriller said:
Hollier than thou? You compared me to PJF and claimed that everyone consumes propaganda.

:rolleyes:

Do you stand by this or want to retract that?

My entire point is that fentanyl isn’t ever addressed; it’s used as a cudgel by those who fear monger drugs the most, to hurt POC and communities. My original post contained an article which criticized the Trump administration’s cutting of drug recovery therapy and Medicaid. So maybe before you attack me again, you give that article a quick looksie. Here, I’ll even repost it for your convenience.

View: https://bsky.app/profile/crampell.bsky.social/post/3lnzphrac5k2p


One last thing, this was not a good experience. I would suggest before you come after me with your knives you actually read what I say instead of cherry picking little things to argue about. I think I’ve earned more credibility and good faith than you’ve expressed over the last few days that I care greatly about American lives and liberal causes. Im not one of the millions cheering on or turning a blind eye to the immorality that Trump and his fascist regime are doing to millions of Americans.

The fact that other posters got what I was saying which you and fish let your emotions get in the way of *actually reading and understanding* what I was saying, shows that for whatever reason, you two just refused to give me any credit or benefit of doubt. Which is odd considering my extensive liberal posting history, typically citing scholarly articles and credible sources. Not… big balls69 or Russian puppets, Benny Johnson.
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I was more than ready to make good and move on, but in response to your post above?

GFYS
 
Fosto said:
I think you're spot on. Fentanyl is used as a boogeyman because it's more prevalent in white communities. They're saying that brown people are responsible for the problem, and they are using that as a justification for the mass deportations. It's obvious, and I don't know why people are getting so offended by what you're saying.
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Interesting you see a difference in point of view as "offense". And even that difference in point of view was just another equally valid view on a complex topic.
 
Sardines said:
You must not know what propaganda is or you must be the most naive person in the universe.

Everyone consumes propaganda.
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Except those that completely buy into their side's propaganda. Propaganda is only what the "evil" ones do. And clearly, we're not evil, so....
 
LogGrad98 said:
Interesting you see a difference in point of view as "offense". And even that difference in point of view was just another equally valid view on a complex topic.
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Oh lord. I didn't think people were getting offended because of the "differences in view points". It was the name calling and promises to put people on the ignore list. "Centrism" must be so exhausting.
 
The Thriller said:
As far as people not seeing drugs being intertwined with race? That’s just not true. And you don’t have to be a trumper either. The way the crack epidemic has been depicted vs opioid, mass incarceration, the “war on drugs”, and the way drugs and the border are discussed really makes it pretty ****ing obvious how much race matters regarding drugs. Like you have to work harder to ignore this than to see it.
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Nah, I knew lots of drugs addicts. And I knew many drug addicts who are now deceased. By far the majority of them were white. Zero of them were black. I have never met a black drug addict. When I think of a drug addict a white male pops into my head.

Not saying that things haven't been depicted in movies and television and media etc the way you say that they have. Simply saying that for me drugs aren't a racial issue. Same goes for many other people who actually know addicts. Most people I know have had addiction show up in their lives or their friends or families lives so they relate to those close, familiar situations way more that what they see in the media or how the government wants them to think. I dont disagree that the media and government have tried to tie drugs to POC but I simply dont think it has worked due to the fact that addiction is so rampant in every community and every race that most people can see that addiction and drugs aren't a POC issue but a simply a societal issue of all of us.
 
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Red said:
OK….




View: https://x.com/Ignatiuscriley/status/1918651706390311362
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So dumb. I dont see this as a huge deal since im sure he is joking (just like in his interview when he said he should be pope or something) but its pretty lame that our president doesn't have the integrity, self awareness, respect, emotional intelligence, etc to know that its a horrible look to post this right after the pope dies.
Hopefully all the catholics are turned off by the classlessness of such a stupid post.
 
Fosto said:
Oh lord. I didn't think people were getting offended because of the "differences in view points". It was the name calling and promises to put people on the ignore list. "Centrism" must be so exhausting.
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I'll take it over blind fanaticism any day. Yes, employing critical thinking around most topics takes a lot more energy then just blind obeisance to the party line, no doubt. Still it's worth the effort. You should try it sometime.
 
fishonjazz said:
So dumb. I dont see this as a huge deal since im sure he is joking (just like in his interview when he said he should be pope or something) but its pretty lame that our president doesn't have the integrity, self awareness, respect, emotional intelligence, etc to know that its a horrible look to post this right after the pope dies.
Hopefully all the catholics are turned off by the classlessness of such a stupid post.
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Yes you would hope so. But right now my hope for us as a nation is pretty much at an all time low. Never underestimate the stupidity of fanatical people in large groups.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I'll take it over blind fanaticism any day. Yes, employing critical thinking around most topics takes a lot more energy then just blind obeisance to the party line, no doubt. Still it's worth the effort. You should try it sometime.
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There is nothing thoughtful about both-sideism. It's the easiest ideology in the world. The exhausting part is finding new ways to say "both sides are bad" regardless of the evidence in front of you.
 
Fosto said:
There is nothing thoughtful about both-sideism. It's the easiest ideology in the world. The exhausting part is finding new ways to say "both sides are bad" regardless of the evidence in front of you.
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The fact that all you can see is "both-sideism" shows how deep in your self-righteous ideology you are. You have lost the ability to discern nuance and you swallow the propaganda like it's gospel. I'd hate for my politics to be my defacto religion. You have my pity sir.
 
LogGrad98 said:
The fact that all you can see is "both-sideism" shows how deep in your self-righteous ideology you are. You have lost the ability to discern nuance and you swallow the propaganda like it's gospel. I'd hate for my politics to be my defacto religion. You have my pity sir.
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This is so vapid and childish I'm just going to step out. Enjoy your crusade against "extremism on all sides" lol
 
Sardines said:
I was more than ready to make good and move on, but in response to your post above?

GFYS
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You compared me to PJF. You know that’s absurd. I’m not going to let you move on without addressing that. You don’t get to do a drive by hit and run like that dude. If you don’t have the character to apologize for that, then here, I’ll spell it out for you:

Go **** yourself. Go **** yourself from Miami to Seattle buddy.
 
The Thriller said:
You compared me to PJF. You know that’s absurd. I’m not going to let you move on without addressing that. You don’t get to do a drive by hit and run like that dude. If you don’t have the character to apologize for that, then here, I’ll spell it out for you:

Go **** yourself. Go **** yourself from Miami to Seattle buddy.
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You are like PJF in your approach to political dialogue. You are as blind to your own bias as they are.

I am never going to apologize to you.
 
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