No clue (Although I'm inclined to believe that individual real NBA scouts have much more varied boards than we sometimes imagine, based on what the leading draft sites present).
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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That’s the scout the Jazz fired, has to be. It explains so much. Lol
I mean, anyone can be a scout. Not like you need to go to scout school and get a scout degree/certification. We are all scouts
Really don't think this is that wild. You got to think most drafts will only have a certain number of good players. Also pretty consistent that someone drafted in the lottery will be very bad and out of the league, and not a top 30 player in the class.
That being said, I think it's pretty wild to drop the best shooter in the draft that far.
Locke is hyping up Fears now
We have Fears at home
Who?
Keyonte
“There are levels to this sh*t.”
-meek mill
seattlejazzfan
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yeah, only referring to when i saw him play.
seattlejazzfan
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yup. fears is much more like collier.
HadAnEffectHere
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The differences between Fears and Collier
-Collier's finishing at the basket and foul drawing was based entirely on his overwhelming strength, which was never going to translate to the NBA. Fears' was based on his elite body control which will translate (he will instantly have the best body control in the NBA other than SGA)... But Fears' explosion is so mediocre that I do worry about his rim finishing.
-Fears is just a whatever passer for a PG. Collier is an incredibly high variance and confusing passer, with true PG instincts and tons of elite passes and tons of horrible passes. Have never seen anyone pass like this other than Westbrook.
-Collier and Fears both were terrible shooters in college, but Collier's touch was bad whereas Fears' touch is great. Fears has a broken jumpshot form which is probably contributing to him missing most of his jumpers... But I don't know how good his jumper would be even with a fixed form.
I don't think Fears can co-exist with Collier or George long-term and he is obviously very similar to Collier though.
Fears is a very high upside, high risk pick. You need to bet that his rim finishing and foul drawing translate, that he's big enough to not be a victim on defense, and that he can get WAY better at shooting. He can maybe get to Kyrie Irving level if everything goes right? But he'll probably not end up as a starter as one of these things probably won't go right.
Have him 4th, it's really hard to rank him.
-Collier's finishing at the basket and foul drawing was based entirely on his overwhelming strength, which was never going to translate to the NBA. Fears' was based on his elite body control which will translate (he will instantly have the best body control in the NBA other than SGA)... But Fears' explosion is so mediocre that I do worry about his rim finishing.
-Fears is just a whatever passer for a PG. Collier is an incredibly high variance and confusing passer, with true PG instincts and tons of elite passes and tons of horrible passes. Have never seen anyone pass like this other than Westbrook.
-Collier and Fears both were terrible shooters in college, but Collier's touch was bad whereas Fears' touch is great. Fears has a broken jumpshot form which is probably contributing to him missing most of his jumpers... But I don't know how good his jumper would be even with a fixed form.
I don't think Fears can co-exist with Collier or George long-term and he is obviously very similar to Collier though.
Fears is a very high upside, high risk pick. You need to bet that his rim finishing and foul drawing translate, that he's big enough to not be a victim on defense, and that he can get WAY better at shooting. He can maybe get to Kyrie Irving level if everything goes right? But he'll probably not end up as a starter as one of these things probably won't go right.
Have him 4th, it's really hard to rank him.
I agree but the last thing we need is another 6’3-6’4 guard who can’t shoot.
I have the opposite opinion where being unsure about our current players means we should be more willing to take similar types of players. If they were better like Kessler, that’s when you start to start to consider getting a different guy.
I don’t think having bad players at the position should influence the decision making. If we come away thinking Tre or Fears is the best guy, I’m definitely not letting Key or Collier make me stray away from taking my guy.
Getting a good lead initiator/ball handler is priority #1 and it’s because the guys we haven’t aren’t good enough.
jom2003
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Yeah u know it ain't true. Anyone can call themselves a scout nowadays and they are never being held accountable for being wrong. They can put up some craziest BS big board ever that has zero chance of being accurate then move onto next year like nothing happened.
HadAnEffectHere
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You pick Fears because you think he will become a good shooter. There's no reason to consider him if you don't believe in his shooting after you fix his shooting form.
jom2003
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Why? Just why? Surely we need more of those undersized streaky guards(28% from deep btw) who play zero defense.