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Jazz are committed to Donovan as cornerstone according to Woj

The Jazz are committed to Donovan until....you know, they aren't anymore. If a huge trade offer comes in, then he's not off the table.
 
It's sad because when he was a rookie full of excitement and energy Jazz Nation LOVED Don, and thought he was our version of Michael Jordan.
I remember camping with some friends and listening to a playoff game on the radio in what I think was Spida second season and telling him that I literally wouldn't trade donovan for anyone in the nba.
He was throwing out names like Harden, Steph, Kyrie, etc and I was nope, nope, nope. He was so good so fast and was great for the community and humble (even randomly showed up to Kearns high school, where I went to school, and the 4th of july pool part stuff etc etc), and seemed like he really wanted to be with the jazz. I remember stories about draft night when he found the nuggets had traded him to the jazz and he was stoked and told his mom that utah was where he was hoping to go or something.

Man how times have changed.
 
I think it's been pretty clear that Don doesn't have as much say as yall we saying.

We didn't hire his buddy
We released his buddy
We traded his buddy

Rudy getting traded was good business and the right call whether Don liked it or not.

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At least he doesn’t anymore… is that what you’re saying?

I think keeping him is stupid. It’s so stupid I refuse to believe it’s really the way the Jazz feel. We’ll see…


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It's not policing. It's asking. I'm asking you to please just take it to another thread. I'm far from the only person here who's sick of threads getting derailed by the same argument by the same person.
Thanks Steve
 
Maybe we include him instead of Bogey in a deal for Ayton where Phoenix sends him to Brooklyn.
I get that. What I dont get is why anyone (brooklyn in this case) would want Conley.
Sure for us it makes tremendous sense to trade conley and keep bogey. But not for the other team. Who knows, maybe Danny Ainge is just that good but I dont think so. Conley is too old too expensive too small and too injury prone.
Bogey is younger, not undersized, cheaper, and almost never misses games. Gotta think either bogey is the one we would trade for ayton or we trade conley but add a ton of picks (which I dont think ainge will do cause that would be dumb imo)
 
I get that. What I dont get is why anyone (brooklyn in this case) would want Conley.
Sure for us it makes tremendous sense to trade conley and keep bogey. But not for the other team. Who knows, maybe Danny Ainge is just that good but I dont think so. Conley is too old too expensive too small and too injury prone.
Bogey is younger, not undersized, cheaper, and almost never misses games. Gotta think either bogey is the one we would trade for ayton or we trade conley but add a ton of picks (which I dont think ainge will do cause that would be dumb imo)

Conley has value. Did anyone think Royce was worth a 1st? Conley has become underrated by Jazz fans value wise. He had a bad playoff series and that has dampened our thoughts on him. He’s basically a 15/5 guy who can play 28 minutes a night and shoot 40% from 3. There is much worse teams can do than that.
 
It takes about a year or so to get rid of this current roster as Conley's contract is essentially unmovable at the moment. So tank this next season at least and see what our options are in 2024.

It doesn't make much of a difference for us to trade Don now vs. trade him in 2024 as he still have years left in his prime.
 
Conley has value. Did anyone think Royce was worth a 1st? Conley has become underrated by Jazz fans value wise. He had a bad playoff series and that has dampened our thoughts on him. He’s basically a 15/5 guy who can play 28 minutes a night and shoot 40% from 3. There is much worse teams can do than that.
Fair. Still old, injury prone, expensive, and tiny.
Also, brooklyn would be in rebuild mode. They dont want conley for a rebuild unless they are getting a bunch of picks from us as well I would think.
 
Conley has value. Did anyone think Royce was worth a 1st? Conley has become underrated by Jazz fans value wise. He had a bad playoff series and that has dampened our thoughts on him. He’s basically a 15/5 guy who can play 28 minutes a night and shoot 40% from 3. There is much worse teams can do than that.
But Royce wasn't paid half as much as Conley. Any team'd love to have a guy like Conley off the bench but they ain't paying 20mil for a backup PG. Good player but has negative value due to his current contract.
 
Fair. Still old, injury prone, expensive, and tiny.
Also, brooklyn would be in rebuild mode. They dont want conley for a rebuild unless they are getting a bunch of picks from us as well I would think.
Being that Brooklyn's drafts are owned by the Rockets, they have no incentive to be bad. They'll just try to be good for the foreseeable future.
 
Fair. Still old, injury prone, expensive, and tiny.
Also, brooklyn would be in rebuild mode. They dont want conley for a rebuild unless they are getting a bunch of picks from us as well I would think.

But Royce wasn't paid half as much as Conley. Any team'd love to have a guy like Conley off the bench but they ain't paying 20mil for a backup PG. Good player but has negative value due to his current contract.

These are all valid points but he’s really not that overpaid. I think Brooklyn would take him as a starting PG. He’s helps them win and he’s good for the locker room and young guys.
 
Tyus Jones just got two years and $15 a year. Conley has value to some teams out there, but the issue is that we won't get much value back. That's not the Ainge way.

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I'm afraid this is ultimately the problem. Ainge never wants to lose or break even on a trade. If we keep Don then Conley needs to go. Let Don sink or swim as primary point guard and move forward from there. Plus, we need more size. We're just so guard heavy right now.
 
A few months ago I said I would trade Mitchell to NY for 4 1sts plus another player or two. But if we can get 4 1sts for Rudy then the Knicks can give us at least 5 for Mitchell, plus some talent.

Look at what Boston did with their pile of picks... Smart, Tatum, etc.
 
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