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I wish I knew what this fanbase wants.

I mean people seem to be ecstatic at the possibility of finally getting rid of Kelly Olynyk and replacing him with a G-League player who may not be able to stay on the floor in actual NBA games.

Do we want to say goodbye to any playoff aspirations, blow this thing up and watch bad basketball the rest of the way... and then immediately pivot to signing a 27 year old Lauri Markkanen to a long term max deal, which is a win-in-the-near-future move if there ever was one?

What do we want?
 
Tremendous Upside said:
I wish I knew what this fanbase wants.

I mean people seem to be ecstatic at the possibility of finally getting rid of Kelly Olynyk and replacing him with a G-League player who may not be able to stay on the floor in actual NBA games.

Do we want to say goodbye to any playoff aspirations, blow this thing up and watch bad basketball the rest of the way... and then immediately pivot to signing a 27 year old Lauri Markkanen to a long term max deal, which is a win-in-the-near-future move if there ever was one?

What do we want?
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Championship.

What is the ONLY way to achieve that in any sport? Maximize your ceiling, and hope that pieces fall into place.

How do you do that in the NBA? Either invest playing time and money on the highest ceiling guys you have, or go out there and get better guys.
 
HermanG said:
Championship.

What is the ONLY way to achieve that in any sport? Maximize your ceiling, and hope that pieces fall into place.

How do you do that in the NBA? Either invest playing time and money on the highest ceiling guys you have, or go out there and get better guys.
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Which route are we taking then?
 
Tremendous Upside said:
I wish I knew what this fanbase wants.

I mean people seem to be ecstatic at the possibility of finally getting rid of Kelly Olynyk and replacing him with a G-League player who may not be able to stay on the floor in actual NBA games.

Do we want to say goodbye to any playoff aspirations, blow this thing up and watch bad basketball the rest of the way... and then immediately pivot to signing a 27 year old Lauri Markkanen to a long term max deal, which is a win-in-the-near-future move if there ever was one?

What do we want?
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Dude, you are making it sound like we are blowing this team up if we trade Kelly Olynyk. He seems to be a great dude and has played well for us, but come on.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Which route are we taking then?
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I dont know. All I know is we arent really fully committed to either yet.

We havent traded out all vets who dont have the ceiling required, but we havent pushed any chips in either. I would guess we are looking to do the latter but we wont build on the fringes too much before we get the other centerpiece we need.

Right now there are Top 10 guys in teams who have hard time making big upgrades and who might get very disappointing results this year, to follow up on their previous disappointments.. Bucks, Sixers and Mavericks are all in that boat, as are the Suns and Clippers as well tbf. Cavs are also in a spot where 1st round exit would probably trigger them to sell DM.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
I wish I knew what this fanbase wants.

I mean people seem to be ecstatic at the possibility of finally getting rid of Kelly Olynyk and replacing him with a G-League player who may not be able to stay on the floor in actual NBA games.

Do we want to say goodbye to any playoff aspirations, blow this thing up and watch bad basketball the rest of the way... and then immediately pivot to signing a 27 year old Lauri Markkanen to a long term max deal, which is a win-in-the-near-future move if there ever was one?

What do we want?
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It's up to Ainge, rather than the fanbase. Ainge wants to circulate and accrue more assets for players he's not interested in long-term. We're really just acquiring and appreciating assets until we find some that we believe in. So far, I think they believe in Lauri and Keyonte. Whether the team wins 35 games or 40 games this year doesn't matter in the bigger picture.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
I wish I knew what this fanbase wants.

I mean people seem to be ecstatic at the possibility of finally getting rid of Kelly Olynyk and replacing him with a G-League player who may not be able to stay on the floor in actual NBA games.

Do we want to say goodbye to any playoff aspirations, blow this thing up and watch bad basketball the rest of the way... and then immediately pivot to signing a 27 year old Lauri Markkanen to a long term max deal, which is a win-in-the-near-future move if there ever was one?

What do we want?
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Kessler is not a g league player who can't stay on the court.
Trade KO and Kessler goes from 23 minutes per game to 30+. That makes us better imo.

Playoff aspirations? Without trading KO or Simone we were the 10th seed. What do you think 10th seeds do in the playoffs?

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Tremendous Upside said:
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Who has a higher ceiling? Kessler and Hendricks or KO?
Answer that and you have the answer to your question

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Tremendous Upside said:
It's not just about getting rid of Tec and Kelly, but who they'll be replaced by (so far, nobody who's a proven NBA player).
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Again, Kessler is a good, proven player.
We have a team full of guys that up to this point were getting too few minutes.
Hendricks isn't the only player in the jazz roster.
Why are you acting like suddenly hendricks is going to get all the minutes vacated by these players after not playing at all for the jazz and at the same time thinking he will be the worst player for the our team ever even after seeing the jazz look pretty good when he did get minutes earlier this year?



Oh ya, you are you.

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The Woj Pod trade deadline day 4 is out. Lots of Jazz stuff in there..
  • Very complementary of Hardy (said he has done COTY level job this year)
  • Woj said we can come out of this week with both better team AND more picks.
  • We are definitely in a lot of discussions right now.
  • KO for Warriors is a real thing. No mention on what we could get back.
  • Bruce Brown discussions are active and ongoing. Didnt mention us (just Knicks), but says there are other teams (we have been connected)

View: https://x.com/wojespn/status/1755562997731283198?s=20
 
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HermanG said:
The Woj Pod trade deadline day 4 is out. Lots of Jazz stuff in there..
  • Very complementary of Hardy (said he has done COTY level job this year)
  • Woj said we can come out of this week with both better team AND more picks.
  • We are definitely in a lot of discussions right now.
  • KO for Warriors is a real thing. No mention on what we could get back.
  • Bruce Brown discussions are active and ongoing. Didnt mention us (just Knicks), but says there are other teams (we have been connected)

View: https://x.com/wojespn/status/1755562997731283198?s=20
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Moody I would guess.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
It's not just about getting rid of Tec and Kelly, but who they'll be replaced by (so far, nobody who's a proven NBA player).
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You aren’t thinking on a long enough timeline. Locke says the Jazz are targeting a 2028-2030 championship window. The decisions we make on role players and veterans who may be out of the league by then have zero bearing. What matters is maximizing the value we get now and maintaining flexibility for when a star to pair with Lauri becomes available.
 
HermanG said:
The Woj Pod trade deadline day 4 is out. Lots of Jazz stuff in there..
  • Very complementary of Hardy (said he has done COTY level job this year)
  • Woj said we can come out of this week with both better team AND more picks.
  • We are definitely in a lot of discussions right now.
  • KO for Warriors is a real thing. No mention on what we could get back.
  • Bruce Brown discussions are active and ongoing. Didnt mention us (just Knicks), but says there are other teams (we have been connected)

View: https://x.com/wojespn/status/1755562997731283198?s=20
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Thanks dude. Appreciate the summary of points.
 
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