Coach Ellis
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Also, right now is a GREAT time to be able to add young talent to fill out your bench. I think the Jazz take 3 players today AND add at least one more undrafted player who makes the roster in some capacity.
Did read that he was put in the tier one of all prospects. If we know the tier, then we know that the organization has agreed to it. Well, at least the top decision makers.The "Jazz love Black" rumor seems to 100% stem from the rumor that Hardy loves Black.
When I read Sarah Todd's piece on the draft process, it basically said Hardy will just come in for workouts and watch a hour or two of tape and just give his opinion, but his opinion is just a piece of the overall choice.
I'm sure he is high, but I'm not certain he is 5th.
Oh Zinger = KP. I was confused a while there since I havent heard that nickname, but now I understand that you guys discussed that very point earlier.Boston will let Zinger walk at year end unless he is cheap… like less than 20M a year. This was a change up trade but also a long term budget trade.
I also think it signals that they’re serious about Brown’s Supermax and keeping those two together. As I see it, they chose Brown over Smart - which is the right decision. Watch them use the 25th pick on either a PG or a C.That sort of makes sense. Get that Smart money out and bring in KP as an expiring. That sort of supports my thoughts that KP is a 1 year mercenary whose point is to add length and scoring to the frontcourt and also to go away from the books after the next season.
I think they’re going to miss Marcus Smart more than they’re expecting to.I get what Boston did but Zinger may not be a championship team first guy and Boston has a lack of leadership. I could see that going very wrong.
It's been rumored the Jazz view Black as the 5th best prospect. We will only really know that if they trade to 5th to get him.Did read that he was put in the tier one of all prospects. If we know the tier, then we know that the organization has agreed to it. Well, at least the top decision makers.
The one thing that the article did add is that the front office are prone to trust the coaches mostly in terms of whether they think a particular player has a path to improvement under the coaching staff. If Hardy is indeed high on Black, that could be a hint that Hardy thinks Black's shot is improvable (or maybe it means nothing).The "Jazz love Black" rumor seems to 100% stem from the rumor that Hardy loves Black.
When I read Sarah Todd's piece on the draft process, it basically said Hardy will just come in for workouts and watch a hour or two of tape and just give his opinion, but his opinion is just a piece of the overall choice.
I'm sure he is high, but I'm not certain he is 5th.
They need to use the 25th pick to get a quality guard.I get what Boston did but Zinger may not be a championship team first guy and Boston has a lack of leadership. I could see that going very wrong.
I don't. But they do. See for yourself. Don't listen to me
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agreeIt could be either… it definitely isn’t “we think there are 9 guys after the tier of 4 guys” type interpretation. Kind of like a DL nothingburger quote. I’m just trying to piece together tea leaves with duct tape. I really need this to be over.
I think the original deal made more sense (sending out Brogdon) but sending out Smart who is a culture guy, a great defender who can also offensively do some stuff is just weird. KP also will be the 3rd guy to eat and I dont think he will be content in that role.I get what Boston did but Zinger may not be a championship team first guy and Boston has a lack of leadership. I could see that going very wrong.
Rudy ain’t as good as Dame but he definitely would have wanted to be here. Don and Gordo wanted out.Why can’t we ever get the guy that irrationally wants to stay with Utah? Lol. Guess we emptied the bank with Stockton and Malone. Haha
Shooting splits. Open (no defender) 3pt shot for Black was 47%. That's a hint he will be outstanding shooter. Plus in workouts they say his shot looks better and consistent.The one thing that the article did add is that the front office are prone to trust the coaches mostly in terms of whether they think a particular player has a path to improvement under the coaching staff. If Hardy is indeed high on Black, that could be a hint that Hardy thinks Black's shot is improvable (or maybe it means nothing).
100% and I’m sure Boston is gutted right now. Also you have some prickly personalities… Brogdon, brown, Zinger… and Joe Mazz coaching em… there is some tinder and gas in Boston… better not strike a match.I think the original deal made more sense (sending out Brogdon) but sending out Smart who is a culture guy, a great defender who can also offensively do some stuff is just weird. KP also will be the 3rd guy to eat and I dont think he will be content in that role.
Hahaha.. you mean the fake pumping part?There is a Dick joke to be had there, but that's beneath me.
Well, having Beal under a no trade clause really hamstrung his value. He would only wave the no trade clause for two or three teams. And if only one of those teams says yes they don’t have to pay top dollar and KP with his injury history just isn’t worth what he used to be.Wtf, are the wizards even doing? lmao. They're trading all their players for 0 picks
You pay for what you get. You pay them now so they get more return in the long run. You don't pay Kuz & zingis of course you get nothing.So overpay for a team that is going to be a perenial loser?
The Jazz got value out of their players because their players won. The Wizards didnt have that luxury. They made great moves. They were late, but better late than never.