America is great and everything is NOT Pres. Trump's fault thread
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lauriandres
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What i meant - is that OK or should be not tolerated if somebody is using a chinese soldier make-up and costume which looks similar what chinese used when conquering the Tibet? Or when being a Hutu look-alike? Or are you serious about it that you do not know what happened in Rwanda in 1994? Although it seems that now some Democrats would find a reason that this genocide was also fault of the Republicans and those blacks who performed the killings did the right thing. If showing a Soviet Union or Chinese flag is OK, then why not the swastika? Isn't it a some what double standard? IMHO the Idaho teachers performance was quite South Parkish and therefore i wonder why it was so big fuss about it.
Thank you for clarifying.
There is a history to some symbols and their uses in a local culture that make them toxic to that culture. Using a swastika in Europe or the US has a different meaning than using it in Tibet, to my understanding. This is also possibly true (with reverse implications) for using a Chinese flag in Tibet or the US. Dressing as a Hutu in the US is unlikely to disturb a nearby Tutsi.
I don't know anything significant about the Idaho teachers, their town, or why they chose costumes about being Mexican and being a wall. I have no comment on that.
Red
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Yes, I do remember saying that. And I'll leave it at that. I actually wrote a detailed reply, but I have erased it. Out of respect for the OP's intent with this thread. I may have already ignored that intent, but this latest would have really been beyond the pale, so I deleted it.
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DutchJazzer
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well thanks for comming out for a while.
i know it is hard being for liberty and freedom!
but it is worth it! i let thes epeople on jazzfanz stay in their lil echochamber. i just stay away from most of their anti trump thread
Stars Fan
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I'll give you the Sanders point. It's not cool to go after public servants. My bad. Elected officials on the other hand should take feedback however they can get it. I don't like it, but when you are are fed up you have a right to let your representative know. I personally think it is counter productive, but in terms of free speech it's allowed. Just don't touch or harm someone.
The BLM comment was a reference to a children's book. A lot of people were very upset a couple of years ago about the rhetoric of the BLM movement leading to violence against, and assassinations of policemen. If you don't hold Trump responsible for the actions of Bowers, then don't ask BLM to tone down their rhetoric. The irony is that the Black Lives Matter folks have toned down their rhetoric, something that Trump refuses to do because he is afraid of backing down from a fight.
Danger Will Robinson!!!
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Liberals are also for liberty and freedom.
gandalfe
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"Liberal' comes from the Latin liberalis, which means pertaining to a free man. In politics, to be liberal is to want to extend democracy through change and reform. One can see why that word had to be erased from our political lexicon." - Gore Vidal
Joe Bagadonuts
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It's interesting how different perceptions of a word can be. Liberals hear that word so much differently than conservatives. Vice-versa is also true.
Oddly, Trump's press conference this morning cheered me up. The comedy was pure gold. Mia Love must be delighted that the president called her race before it has been decided, and mocked her in the process. The reality show continues . . .
When **** doesn't go perfectly, blame the black.
Bonus points, if it's a black woman. Then you can pretend to be a savior.
DutchJazzer
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the lberty to steal my money!
the liberty to censor my speech, whith what they deem hate speech
the liberty to force me into stupid healthcare plans
the liberty to not allow me to on a gun!
yes you are 100% right they are for liberty!
they don't give me the liberty so i can be responsible for my OWN HEALTHCARE, MY OWN SELF DEFENSE!
yeah some liberty!
liberals want you to be a child with no responsibility and an abusive parent(government) to take care of you!
that is some liberty but i expect nothing less form a deluded evil person like yourself
I feel a little ashamed of the pleasure I get, that it's become so clear that you have no productive response, and so need to insult me like this.
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DutchJazzer
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how about the liberty to be left the **** alone! but no you want the government to meddle in every single aspect of my live!
no thank you national socialist government wiped out 8 branches of my family!
that is not liberty!
i want to live my live how i deem in my best interest. i want to be left alone! and leave others alone.
i want to liberty so you do not stick your hand in my pocket. in return i am no hypocrite i wont stick my hand in your pocket!
i really wonder ar eyou just ignorant blind and stupid you dont see what liberty is! or are you just plane evil?
I want to live my live MY WAY not your way!
do i have the liberty to live my live my way? do i have the liberty in your world to refuse stupid healthcare instead go with a healthsavings account?
in my world you have the liberty to start your own commune. i will wish you LUCK on a small scale they are very successful look at jewish kibutzes. voluntary communism. if you where not evil or ignorant it would be my pleasure to come visit you in your voluntary communistic society!
you are one of the most evil or dumbest posters on here!
or do you agree i have the right to defend myself with a gun of any kind. notice i want to defend myself against national socialist government who come to take me to a train, i prefer automatics!
do you agree i can use what you deem hate speech whatever that is? or not
do you agree i can stop paying taxes for education and healthcare because i dont want to use it?
if you do maybe your not evil!
You ducked this question before.
There are three choices:
1) If you don't contribute to healthcare insurance, and you get sick beyond your immediate means to pay, you die.
2) If you don't contribute to healthcare insurance, and you get sick beyond your immediate means to pay, you get treatment anyhow, and everyone else winds up paying for your healthcare.
3) You contribute to healthcare insurance.
I choose 3) as the least terrible. What's your choice?
DutchJazzer
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yeha right
but you fail to answer my answer!
do i have those liberties or not?\
the only liberty/fredom a liberal agrees to. is the freedom from responsibilty! we will tak ecar eof you. give you everything you need. foodtamps, education, healthcare protection. and ooh yeah when you need to throw evil jews in the oven. when you ar eput on trial dont take rpsonsibilties. say like eichman i was just following orders!
freedom from responsibility!
i want responsibility! give me the freedom to have my own responsibility!
you got nothing on this cus you are either evil or extremely uninformed!
you ar egettnig pwne only people who will agree to this is people who like giovani gentili, stalin, castro, hitler, chavez, maduro, pol pot, mao zedong
the lberty to steal my money! -- Taxes are not theft, if you mean taxes.
the liberty to censor my speech, whith what they deem hate speech -- Who is censoring you? No one.
the liberty to force me into stupid healthcare plans -- No one has been forced to use any health care plan, except by monetary necessity
the liberty to not allow me to on a gun! -- Lot's of liberals own guns
As I said, this is a guilty pleasure.
DutchJazzer
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i assume their is LIBERTY!
so i tell you to **** of with those 3 options and i chose option number 4
DON'T worry about my health, I wont pay anything to anyone. but if i get sick I PAY the people uout of my own goddamned pocket, nobody else has to pay! and maybe if you turn away form the evil side you can come visit me in the hospital all it will cost you is lil money for flowers or chocolate. or you have your kids make a get well soon card!
but in your liberalized word the are only those 3 options right! hey fun fact hitler was the first one to give universal healthcare!
Yet you problem spent eight years blaming Obama for everything. Giving him no credit for anything. The economy was doing just fine when Trump became president even though he thrashed it when running. Even to the point of saying Obama was fudging the numbers so he could win election. So why would I give Trump credit for anything he claims he has accomplished. Funny thing Trump is still out sourcing many of his business while his supporters look the other way and blame the mean liberals. The reality is that unless you are rich your life isn't that much improved. Inflation has taken away the crumbs I got in my middle class tax break. Funny right after Trump passed his tax reform my landlord (GOP) raised my rent $100 because his cost were going up so he wanted me to pay for them. Wait for the republicans when they try to strip Medicare and SSN. I want to see the reaction from his supporters. Still waiting for the cheap and best healthcare he promised. Just told my healthcare cost are going up 27 percent. I thought Trump was suppose to stop this from happening. Tariffs have had a mix bag. Dairy farmers are struggling, Ford said they lost a billion dollars. Other companies are still staying over seas like Harley Davidson. Low emission.. please explain how Trump has done anything to protect the environment. You could challenge Sarah Huckabee for your delusional spin on Trump's "success".
DutchJazzer
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liberals want tax for everything. tacation is theft
liberals are working on censorship. the consittution seems to block them
liberals forced the whole of America (and europe) into healthcare plans. if you refused they took more of your money
liberals want to ban guns like that black govenror cnadidate that refuses to accept her loss!
that is what liberals stand for!