I agree with all of that. I'm not saying dump Rudy for peanuts. I'm saying don't overpay him if Don and Rudy aren't 100% joined. Giving Rudy the next 6 years at an astronomical number is extremely risky.
Don't be a dumbass. I didn't compare Don to Wilt. I said they shared an accomplishment nobody shared in the 50+ years between.
So we just need to wait an let him walk... then make another late first round pick that becomes a legend... how about this... we make that pick and add it to Rudy and Don. Deal?
Just like with Hayward - how do we know we will struggle so much without Rudy if we change how we are organized? Why is it such a certainty that we suck without Rudy?
I want him to stay but paying Rudy $190 over 5 years is so idiotic.
Okay they share an accomplishment... many players do. He's great but if his leadership is so great what happened in the 4th quarter... why did he get out leadershipped by Jamal Murray? Is he a legend too?
Partly because Rudy is better than Hayward was... partly because we got ****ing lucky and getting ****ing lucky is not a strategy to bank on.
Maybe but letting him walk for nothing is equally or more idiotic.
Now you're just being an idiot. You're better than this. You want to win the argument so badly you'll say anything.
I have never said that. You know this but keep staying idiotic stuff.
Before Rudy, our “rebuild” was built on the core of Hayward, Burks, Favors, and Kanter. Rudy forced a new rebuild by literally pushing Kanter out of the way and changing our entire identity to defense first. Hayward never had the impact on our success that Rudy has and we’d still be constantly rebuilding if we hadn’t pivoted for Rudy.
You can blame Hayward. That sucked. Bojan was a decent recovery, though. You can blame pushing all-in with Conley. That’s the most glaring part of the saga at this point, for me. He was supposed to elevate us a to the top tier.... I mean, they KNEW it would take us out of the running for acquiring major talent via trade for the remainder of Don’s rookie deal.... It really strapped us and has left us short of the upper tier. They’re running out of time to recover.
Oh my bad... you’d like to get a Mercedes but pay for a Honda.
So concerned about kissing the *** of a guy who won’t be in a Jazz uniform 3 years from now. I was/kinda am against a Rudy super max, but I don’t see why not at this point tbh. Donovan’s last game in a Jazz uniform is potentially around 28-29 months from now. I don’t think some of you realize just how shortened the timeline has become due to that player option on Donovan’s contract. There is no time to change course at this point. Donovan will potentially be supermax eligible 30 months from now in the summer of 2024 (we are a few weeks away from 2021). When he doesn’t sign that extension the Jazz will trade him. You have 3 seasons, this one included in that, to win. Pay Rudy what he wants and go for it, cause your other guys timeline is the summer of 2024. You can’t recover by then. Any chance you had of recalibrating and rebooting was lost the day you gave Donovan a player option in his contract. And yes a year means that much. It meant that much with Hayward, and it means that much with Rudy right now who also signed a 4 year deal. That extra year, that the Jazz continually just give away is extremely important every damn time.
Most players getting the supermax are worth more than that. Giannis is worth far more than the supermax. If you removed the max he could make and put him on the open market he could get more.
I shouldn't have called you an idiot. I apologize.
