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so I'm down the road apiece already.

I haven't looked at your pawn push yet. I expect it will force my moves.

I disagree on the opinion that an a or h file pawn is "easier to defend", noting that a king standing in front , with the Bishops and Rook traded out, can force a stalemate.

We will make this a test of our opinions.

I have, however, already made a commitment not to put my King in that position.

It's a decision to go for the win, or lose tryiing.

I will want to study out things until I get back to my computer.

I might add some more comments, though.
 
doesnt this thread belong in general sports forum? get ur **** together mods. somebody sleepin on da job.

Probably a fair question. The brain is not biologically a "muscle", but most sports involve significant intellectual skills.

A lot of folks might object to moving this thread into the "sports" realm, and probably most of the chess folks will be in the general discussion department.. . .
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3

I would agree that, in general, it's easier for king to block a rook pawn when the king is in front of the pawn. Here, your king is on the other side of the board.

I fine with the chess thread in either forum.
 
It's also easier to block the pawn with any other piece, because you only need to control one side of the pawn, for example, restricting the King from the next file.

I have to figure out what manpower commitment it will take to stop you.

If possible, that is.
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3

I would agree that, in general, it's easier for king to block a rook pawn when the king is in front of the pawn. Here, your king is on the other side of the board.

I fine with the chess thread in either forum.

I was trying to explain to you why I moved my King away from the passed pawn in this case.

It was an alternative with practically no chance to win versus a wild chance for
a win ..
 
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One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3

I would agree that, in general, it's easier for king to block a rook pawn when the king is in front of the pawn. Here, your king is on the other side of the board.

I fine with the chess thread in either forum.

So, I'm back. Looking for some decent alternatives in this game.

Funny, looking at it now, it looks like this will be a done game pretty quick.
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3

I would agree that, in general, it's easier for king to block a rook pawn when the king is in front of the pawn. Here, your king is on the other side of the board.

I fine with the chess thread in either forum.

Well, OB. . . . I think this is pretty much the game maker.

Rd3+
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4

What sort of game do you think this makes? You'll finally get your rook on my 7th rank, if you want, but I'm not sure it will help you.
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4

What sort of game do you think this makes? You'll finally get your rook on my 7th rank, if you want, but I'm not sure it will help you.

It's still your aim to Queen your passed pawn, I know.

Your response was the one I expected this turn.

I agree that moving my rook here is not my best move.

Be4
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3

I have no expectation that the pawn will actually queen. It's the threat of queening that matters.
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3

I have no expectation that the pawn will actually queen. It's the threat of queening that matters.

I think it's possible to Queen it, or at least force a sacrifice to stop it.

Rd7
 
So I'm going to be outta range until tomorrow night. . .

Have a good Christmas with your family. I'm sure your dau will make it good
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4

I assumed you meant d2.

If I could exchange my rook pawn for your bishop, I think that would lead to a winning edge, definitely so for you rook. However, it might even be something as simple as forcing you into an exchange of pieces even without gaining material.
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4

I assumed you meant d2.

If I could exchange my rook pawn for your bishop, I think that would lead to a winning edge, definitely so for you rook. However, it might even be something as simple as forcing you into an exchange of pieces even without gaining material.

You assumed correctly, I was thinking of your remark about the seventh rank.

Thanks for the catch.

You are also correct in your general assessment of the situation.

I am on my way home, and will wait to make my next move then.

I intend to avoid forced trades the best I can, unless it happens to be something that will lead to a win for me. . . . . a matter of timing, perhaps. Well, position and timing. . . .
 
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One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4

I assumed you meant d2.

If I could exchange my rook pawn for your bishop, I think that would lead to a winning edge, definitely so for you rook. However, it might even be something as simple as forcing you into an exchange of pieces even without gaining material.

OK, so maybe this will be alright. . . . .

Rd4+
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4

I guess you're not as opposed to trading pieces as I thought you would be.

I'm having difficulty seeing how you can hold the draw after that move, but I could be in for a surprise.
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4

I guess you're not as opposed to trading pieces as I thought you would be.

I'm having difficulty seeing how you can hold the draw after that move, but I could be in for a surprise.

OK, I was surprised myself when I looked at this move yesterday, and the day before. I thought it was likely going to be your response before I "let it" happen, and looked at it a lot more than any other move you could make. At first I had hoped you would do something else, but I've learned that I should not expect you to make obvious mistakes. . . .

So here we go, down the path to the shortest game possible, considering you are going to make the most of it.

Out of respect for your game, I will check it all one more time, but the response you should expect is the rook trade. . . . . back in a while. . . .
 
OK. . . . so the appeal of the Rook exchange depended on some stupidity on the part of OB, a bad bet most days.

In other moves I had considered before issuing that invitation, there were also some pretty tortuous issues that had to be gotten just right in order for me to win, as well.

Still this last move may not have been my best move. In general principles, having a pair of mobile pieces keeps hope alive a little better, and in this case I achieved no clear path to a win, and may have given OB one.

But I have still not gone over all the contingencies, not by a long shot. All I can say right now is that I'm questioning the trade. I can give OB a chance to decline if he wishes though. . . .

So I have been conscripted into the move to the new house. . . . .

I might be until Monday night thinking about this.
 
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