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babe said:
OK. . . . so the appeal of the Rook exchange depended on some stupidity on the part of OB, a bad bet most days.

In other moves I had considered before issuing that invitation, there were also some pretty tortuous issues that had to be gotten just right in order for me to win, as well.

Still this last move may not have been my best move. In general principles, having a pair of mobile pieces keeps hope alive a little better, and in this case I achieved no clear path to a win, and may have given OB one.

But I have still not gone over all the contingencies, not by a long shot. All I can say right now is that I'm questioning the trade. I can give OB a chance to decline if he wishes though. . . .

So I have been conscripted into the move to the new house. . . . .

I might be until Monday night thinking about this.
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OK, the issue is what moves can be forced in the ensuing game. The result of the rook trade actually depends upon the position of the surviving pieces. What I had not considered well enough is the somewhat unnatural choice of King moves OB could make to control the center. Natural enough to go chasing along with the passed pawn, but that would have lost the game, imo.

If I take OB's Rook right now, there is a way he can force things on to a victory.

So whether he sees that or not is not going to be a gamble I will take. I therefore move my King to the center of the fight.

Ke5
 
babe said:
OK, the issue is what moves can be forced in the ensuing game. The result of the rook trade actually depends upon the position of the surviving pieces. What I had not considered well enough is the somewhat unnatural choice of King moves OB could make to control the center. Natural enough to go chasing along with the passed pawn, but that would have lost the game, imo.

If I take OB's Rook right now, there is a way he can force things on to a victory.

So whether he sees that or not is not going to be a gamble I will take. I therefore move my King to the center of the fight.

Ke5
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So, I'm back on the road, just thinking about this.

I didn't see any forced line of play where I was sure to win, just some where it was possible.

As things appear now, I may concede if I see a way OB can force a victory.

With me the interest in this game is the exercise of my mind. As with other topics, OB has proven a worthwhile contender.
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4 Ke5
46. Rxd4

If you take on move 45, I saw myself queening while your pawn was still on g3 and your king on h4 (diverting my bishop to d1 got me the extra moves i needed for that). Then I can get my queen to g1 before you have both pawn and king on the 7th rank, and hold you off until I can bring my king over.

However, I don't see where this is better for you. Getting your king to the d file accomplishes the same delay.
 
One Brow said:
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4 Ke5
46. Rxd4

If you take on move 45, I saw myself queening while your pawn was still on g3 and your king on h4 (diverting my bishop to d1 got me the extra moves i needed for that). Then I can get my queen to g1 before you have both pawn and king on the 7th rank, and hold you off until I can bring my king over.

However, I don't see where this is better for you. Getting your king to the d file accomplishes the same delay.
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I am a confirmed unrealistic dreamer. I thought maybe I could talk you outta doing the trade without losing my Bishop as the cost.

Well, we definitely still have some different views even of this relatively simple, objective reality.

Kxd4, or KxR, whatever.
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4 Ke5
46. Rxd4 Kxd4
47. a5

It will be fun seeing which of our visions comes to fruition.
 
One Brow said:
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4 Ke5
46. Rxd4 Kxd4
47. a5

It will be fun seeing which of our visions comes to fruition.
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Well, in my view, my chances to actually win died with the Rook exchange. But even with the Rook it was pretty hard to see how I could actually force you into a position where my winning was possible. I'll study this out again and get back later this afternoon. I have some business to attend to.
 
One Brow vs. Jonah

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1. d4 Nf6

Thanks for starting the game, One Brow. Interesting that d4 is now played more often than e4. Back when Kasparov was playing it seems like e4 was the much more popular move.
 
One Brow vs. Jonah



1. d4 Nf6
2. c4

Jonah said:
Thanks for starting the game, One Brow. Interesting that d4 is now played more often than e4. Back when Kasparov was playing it seems like e4 was the much more popular move.
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From what I understand, there was a period of 4 years or so where the Petrov earned close to 50%, so people gravitated away from e4 directly. However, the Petrov has not been performing as well lately, so e4 will probably come back.
 
One Brow vs. Jonah

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1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6

Against e4 I'm more decisive and just play the Sicilian. With d4 I try different openings so here I'll play g6 to keep my options flexible.
 
One Brow vs. Jonah



1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6
3. Nc3

This thread is close to the only serious chess I've played in the last 25 years, so I don't really have a repertoire. I'll just try to keep up.
 
One Brow said:
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4 Ke5
46. Rxd4 Kxd4
47. a5

It will be fun seeing which of our visions comes to fruition.
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I might not think it as "fun" as you will. . . . .

Bd3
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4 Ke5
46. Rxd4 Kxd4
47. a5 Bd3
48. Ba4

Sure it will. I had a great time having the stuffing knocked out of me by Loggrad98/Jonah. If you can pull that off, it will still be fun.
 
One Brow vs. Jonah

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1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6
3. Nc3 Bg7


I'm still searching for something solid against d4, an opening I feel comfortable with and understand the underlying strategy rather than just the moves. I'm much more relaxed playing against e4 than d4.
 
One Brow said:
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4 Ke5
46. Rxd4 Kxd4
47. a5 Bd3
48. Ba4

Sure it will. I had a great time having the stuffing knocked out of me by Loggrad98/Jonah. If you can pull that off, it will still be fun.
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I thought I responded to this already, but sometimes I don't get the post through somehow, for whatever reason. I also find my computer getting very slow when I come into JazzFanz anymore. We're going to set up another computer in the new house, and get this thing scrubbed.

Kd5

As for "fun", I'm good for losing and still calling it "fun". I grew up being a good sport, and all that. I'm just telling you that at this point I can't make any more mistakes, and you indeed have an advantage.
 
Jonah said:
One Brow vs. Jonah

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1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6
3. Nc3 Bg7


I'm still searching for something solid against d4, an opening I feel comfortable with and understand the underlying strategy rather than just the moves. I'm much more relaxed playing against e4 than d4.
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during one span of my play I loved to do d4 as white, and practically forgot how to play any other way. In the past two years, the computer I played against was good enough it made me turn to the e4 opening, and I could win most of the time. The computer didn't know how to deal with some other things I would do, but it was a cheesy computer. The phone app I have now beats the tar outta me all the time. I win once in a while, though.
 
One Brow vs. Jonah



1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6
3. Nc3 Bg7
4. Nf3

Next time I'm White I'll run e4, to see what you play.
 
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4 Ke5
46. Rxd4 Kxd4
47. a5 Bd3
48. Ba4 Kd5
49. Bb5

I'm not sure how much of a difference it really made, but I first saw myself as having a near-certain win back at move 36. I thought g5 would have better than h5. Once the rooks were gone, it became easier.
 
One Brow vs. Jonah

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1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6
3. Nc3 Bg7
4. Nf3 d6

One Brow said:
Next time I'm White I'll run e4, to see what you play.
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Sure, it would be fun to play an e4 game. I can say now I would play the Sicilian, but I’m fine here with working on my d4 defense. Really, I’m just giving some rambling feelings about the moves as the game develops.

Here I play d6. I used to invariably play d5 and attempt to play the Grunfeld, but I’ve decided to try for something completely different.
 
One Brow said:
One Brow vs. babe



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1. d4 d5
2. c4 dxc
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nf3 e6
5. Bg5 Be7
6. e3 Nd5
7. Bxe7 Qxe7
8. Bxc4 Qb4
9. Qb3 Qxb3
10. Bxb3 c6
11. 0-0 Nd7
12. Nxd4 exd
13. Rfc1 Nf6
14. Ba4 Bd7
15. b4 b5
16. Bb3 0-0
17. Ne5 Rfc1
18. Rc2 a5
19. bxa Bd8
20. Rac1 Ra6
21. f3 g6
22. Ng4 Kg2
23. Nxf6 Kxf6
24. Bxd5 Ke7
25. Rc5 f5
26. e4 Bd7
27. Bb3 fxe
28. fxe Rf8
29. Rf1 Rxf1
30. Kxf1 Rxa5
31. Kf2 Kd6
32. e5+ Ke7
33. Ke3 Ra6
34. d5 cxd
35. Rxd5 h6
36. Kd4 h5
37. e6 Kxe6
38. Rxb5+ Kf6
39. Rc5 Bf5
40. a4 Rd6+
41. Kc3 Rd3+
42. Kb4 Be4
43. g3 Rd2
44. h4 Rd4+
45. Rc4 Ke5
46. Rxd4 Kxd4
47. a5 Bd3
48. Ba4 Kd5
49. Bb5

I'm not sure how much of a difference it really made, but I first saw myself as having a near-certain win back at move 36. I thought g5 would have better than h5. Once the rooks were gone, it became easier.
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Be4

Our computer has crashed with a hardware problem.

I'm on the mini pad now. sorry for any typos.

I'm not going to trade Bishops here.
 
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