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Cleveland aiming for another #1 pick?

BTP said:
Two problems: the Pelicans are in the West; They aren't nowhere ready to contend.
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And Cleveland was just a step away from contending? They had the #1 pick two years in a row. That's not exactly a playoff team.
 
BTP said:
LeBron and Kyrie together. You don't think that team is contendingOh and K-Love is also there.
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Kyrie isn't Anthony Davis, and neither is Kevin Love. Anthony Davis is on another level. Davis does something neither of them do, and that's defense. Hes a legit defensive player of the year candidate. Also, a legit MVP candidate, a long with being in the argument for being the best player. He's actually really good. Even being as young as he is. If I were a GM, you couldn't trade me Kevin Love and Kyrie for Davis.
 
Hack said:
Kyrie isn't Anthony Davis, and neither is Kevin Love. Anthony Davis is on another level. Davis does something neither of them do, and that's defense. Hes a legit defensive player of the year candidate. Also, a legit MVP candidate, a long with being in the argument for being the best player. He's actually really good. Even being as young as he is. If I were a GM, you couldn't trade me Kevin Love and Kyrie for Davis.
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If you're a GM, you know 2 really good players have a bigger impact than 1 transcendent player. And Brow is real good, don't get me wrong. I love how he plays. He's still just 21 though. And 21 usually means you're still making mistakes. And if you look at LeBron's age, miles on his body and project his dwindling athleticism going forward, do you wanna gamble and wait 3 years until Brow is ready to contend or do you wait 1 year and gamble that the Cavs guys can fully utilize their talents in a way that they complement each other and actually win games.
The asset management in New Orleans has been mediocre so far.
The ALbatros Eric "Wheelchair" Gordon contract expires in '16. This means: No free agency until then.
In '16 LeBron would have opted out for another supermax new contract deal and the Brow getts the Derrick Rose provision new TV contract max deal.
Tyreke and Holiday combine for $21M and $21.5M through '17. So basically the Hornets can only add through trades. In '16 they may have some $15M available depending on how the cap manipulation works to avoid rapid jumps. But nothing game changing.
 
The brow > kyrie and love
And it's not even close
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
This guy gets it. You win with great players, not great scorers.
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I don't know but he last time I check great teamplay and playing consistent were the most important attributes. are required to win a championship.

A no show PF on the defensive end doesn't cause too many problems as long as your team defense rotations are right and you got the inside big playing smart rim protection.

The next issue I see is that LeBron isn't playing good defense any longer. He's constantly out of stance, out of position and gambling, reaching in.
You need that defensive wing that can defend both wing spots to build a good defense. I don't know how good Varejao was every defensively or how much he had left there, but I know they currently don't have the wing defense needed to win.
 
Why would a team trade for KLove seeing how he's in the last year of his contract? They could either sign him via free agency this summer or lose him via free agency this summer. Imo, it would be ideal for the Cavs to trade KLove. But I don't think they have the assets or trading partners to make it happen. The cavs, really screwed the pooch on this one. They COULD have had Favors plus the #5. Instead, they opted for a big name player who is a one trick pony. KLove has always struck me as a player who puts big numbers on a bad team.

And to tell you the truth, I feel really bad for how badly Lebron is being misused. He's playing 38+ mins per game. That's a lot of wear and tear. For the sake of the game, someone needs to tell these coaches to start preserving him. Lebron needs to play fewer mins. Ask yourself, "What would Pops do?"
 
BTP said:
I don't know but he last time I check great teamplay and playing consistent were the most important attributes. are required to win a championship.

A no show PF on the defensive end doesn't cause too many problems as long as your team defense rotations are right and you got the inside big playing smart rim protection.

The next issue I see is that LeBron isn't playing good defense any longer. He's constantly out of stance, out of position and gambling, reaching in.
You need that defensive wing that can defend both wing spots to build a good defense. I don't know how good Varejao was every defensively or how much he had left there, but I know they currently don't have the wing defense needed to win.
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We were comparing kyrie and love vs davis...... so you bring up team play and defense.
Do you think kyrie is an unselfish player who plays great defense? How about love?

You just strengthened the argument for the brow being better than Irving/love
 
Brow >>> every player in the league right now.

You couldn't even trade me Lebron or KD for him. He's untouchable. Anyone who thinks he could be traded needs to be banned for life from this site.

He's the "next thing." If his team didn't suck so bad he's probably be on top the MVP race.

Kyrie and KLove? Puhlease. Chucking bigs and small a come a dime a dozen. Guys like the Brow come once every 10-20 years. Duncan's successor has arrived. Brow will be an all time great when everything is said and done.
 
The Thriller said:
Brow >>> every player in the league right now.

You couldn't even trade me Lebron or KD for him. He's untouchable. Anyone who thinks he could be traded needs to be banned for life from this site.

He's the "next thing." If his team didn't suck so bad he's probably be on top the MVP race.

Kyrie and KLove? Puhlease. Chucking bigs and small a come a dime a dozen. Guys like the Brow come once every 10-20 years. Duncan's successor has arrived. Brow will be an all time great when everything is said and done.
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None said anything about trading Brow. But I didn't really expect you to read what others posted.
 
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