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Keyonte or Hendricks are probably in the deal. MPJ is way more talented than Collins and doesn’t need his table set as immaculately. And Gordon is perfect for them. And Lauri has played one great season ever. I think if Murray’s job was to dominate the ball all game then he gets more shine.

I get that we’re starting to get bored, but maybe that’s a cue that we should be spending our time doing something that’s not being on a message board all summer.
Keyonte and Hendricks arent in the deal. Who is the young rookie prospect Miami is giving up? It can be Sensabaugh.
 
And both Lauri/Dame are better than Murray....

And John Collins is more talented than either Gordon or Porter Jr.

And Kessler has 1st team defense potential.

And Keyonte/Hendricks are promising young players.

And Jordan Clarkson is a 6th man of the year candidate.

And Ochai is burgeoning shooter.
How many wins do you think this Jazz team without Lillard gets?
 
Keyonte or Hendricks are probably in the deal. MPJ is way more talented than Collins and doesn’t need his table set as immaculately. And Gordon is perfect for them. And Lauri has played one great season ever. I think if Murray’s job was to dominate the ball all game then he gets more shine.

I get that we’re starting to get bored, but maybe that’s a cue that we should be spending our time doing something that’s not being on a message board all summer.

Are you serious? MPJ needs his table set way more immaculately than Collins.
 
And to reiterate, I dont think you HAVE to get Lillard. I wouldnt overpay for him, but the Jazz should be in the conversation to see if the Miami offer is so low that it's easy to clear.
Why wouldn't you overpay if your really think "Lillard should be enough for a ring"?
 
Why wouldn't you overpay if your really think "Lillard should be enough for a ring"?
Because there are obvious risk. You can be good enough for a ring and there are still unknown factors that make winning a ring unlikely.

I also think you get all these assets for sustainable team building w/ ability to compete at a high level for a large window, not using them all on a one shot kind of thing.
 
No idea. I think with Lillard we are a 55-ish win team.
I guess I just don't see it. Part of it is... I'm probably lower on Lauri(as in... not low on what he showed, but more cautious about assuming this will be his level from now on into the future). I'm also lower on Agbaji than most seem to be. And I'm definitely lower on Collins than what some people seem to be...
 
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