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Devin Harris on Al Jefferson: Jazz fans will be surprised if they see him

Your making too much of what I said if there is a report that Big Al is working out and working on his game, that can only be a good thing. I'm a big Kanter supporter on this board. Before the draft I even made a post saying if I had the #1 pick I'd have taken Kanter, but as far as this team goes Big Al gives us the best chance to win and be competitive up front. I do believe Kanter and Favors are the future of this team. The fact that Jefferson seems to be more committed this year is good news. You come off as a fan that cares more for your favorite player then the team, and Jefferson is in your favorite players way.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Your making too much of what I said if there is a report that Big Al is working out and working on his game, that can only be a good thing. I'm a big Kanter supporter on this board. Before the draft I even made a post saying if I had the #1 pick I'd have taken Kanter, but as far as this team goes Big Al gives us the best chance to win and be competitive up front. I do believe Kanter and Favors are the future of this team. The fact that Jefferson seems to be more committed this year is good news. You come off as a fan that cares more for your favorite player then the team, and Jefferson is in your favorite players way.
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Kanter isnt my favourite player yet, i like hayward and millsap more, just i dont believe Big Al worths 14 million. I dont think he is in Kanters way, if Kanter is good enough as i back him up, he should somehow take some major mins with his performance. And once he proves to be good, i believe Big Al will be very expandable in this team. Only thing is, im thinking about future, now we have a good chance to trade him and get some important piece in return, wouldnt it be good lets say if we trade Big Al for Granger? We already have many big man, we can fill in other spots with better players, a PG and SF (if we dont rely on AK) are the major lacknesses right now for me.

As i said, i dont care for the player, i m thinking about the team, Deron was many fans favourite probably, but somehow most of us forgot him already because we got Favors and Kanter in return and still have hope for future. So if Kanter will suck it up, i will be upset but forget about him soon anyway, but if the future of the team will suck, then it is hard to forget. I just dont understand, why people exaggarate it that i am a homer of Kanter, of course i will be more favorable on him since its my countryman, but that doesnt mean i care about his success ahead of the team.
 
sepanol said:
You dont even know if i dislike Big Al, just guys like you rise him to a divine level thats why i give a contrary reaction, he is just Big Al, he is not Garnett, he was given to wolves with 5 other players to fill Garnett's place but he couldnt. Lets face the truth, i would prefer to see a guy like Scola in my team instead, who is pretty productive, and doesnt get paid 14 million per year. Freaking Griffin is supposed to get 14 milllion at the age of 26 not him.
Btw same for your dislike at Kanter, its ironic too. Does anyone question why you love Valanciunas so much even though he doesnt have any relation with our team being a competitor to Kanter in the youth tournaments? So everyone has favourite players, and Big Al isnt my favourite for sure, i dont need to love him just to make people happy
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Scola > Jefferson? Man, really?
 
Does anyone here love Al Jefferson? As far as as I know, Jefferson probably has the least amount of 100% supports on here besides CJ Miles.
 
Sepanol, you always say that we can't keep Jefferson and all these other young players. This may be true, but we will be able to for the next two years quite easily.

Jefferson has 2 years left on his contract
Millsap has 2 years left (or is it 3?)
Favors has 3
Kanter will have 4 (assuming rookie contract length is the same in new CBA)

We will be able to keep this 4 man rotation for 2 years. After those 2 years are up, we will have to reevaluate the direction of our big men. Are Favors and Kanter performing well enough to be trusted wtih full time starter minutes? Are Millsap or Jefferson resign-able? And so on. A lot can happen from now to then end of those 2 years.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Sepanol, you always say that we can't keep Jefferson and all these other young players. This may be true, but we will be able to for the next two years quite easily.

Jefferson has 2 years left on his contract
Millsap has 2 years left (or is it 3?)
Favors has 3
Kanter will have 4 (assuming rookie contract length is the same in new CBA)

We will be able to keep this 4 man rotation for 2 years. After those 2 years are up, we will have to reevaluate the direction of our big men. Are Favors and Kanter performing well enough to be trusted wtih full time starter minutes? Are Millsap or Jefferson resign-able? And so on. A lot can happen from now to then end of those 2 years.
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Not to mention Kanter might suck. So might Favors. Sap's ceiling might be topped out. Al might prove his individual talents are more detrimental to team play than they're worth.

The crazy thing is assuming anyone is a bedrock, or the future, and planning that way. You put the best guys on the floor every night. If Kanter or Favors are so good, they'll force their way onto the floor. You don't assume NOW that they're going to be studs and put proven players out to pasture just to get that assumption going.
 
dalamon said:
Scola > Jefferson? Man, really?
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Player you see play 82x a year < player you see play a half-dozen times.

Cyrone Torbin said:
Does anyone here love Al Jefferson? As far as as I know, Jefferson probably has the least amount of 100% supports on here besides CJ Miles.
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Don't love Jefferson but still think he can be a very good player and a major piece of the rebuilding process in Utah.
Bottom line is an Al Jefferson in better shape with a year of experience playing Jazz basketball should be a substantial improvement over 2010-11 Al Jefferson - and you hope Al plays well, as that helps the Jazz and will increase Al's trade value before his contract expires.
 
I like Al.

Seriously though. Who thought Sepanol was a guy without an agenda? Dude wants to sell the USA that Kanter is greater than any NBA player. No big deal. At least we might be able to keep Okur.

****, hire the guy already. He'll ship out Jefferson for a 2nd, Sap for maybe a conditional 2nd and play Kanter 48 MPG. Championship.
 
dalamon said:
Scola > Jefferson? Man, really?
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Man, someone should give you, reading and understanding lessons seriously. Read it once again, i told i would prefer to have because he is paid as half and he is very productive, i didnt even make a comparison, you got it now?
 
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