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Do the Jazz get out of the first round?

Do the Jazz get out of the first round?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 33.8%
  • No

    Votes: 28 36.4%
  • Depends on matchup

    Votes: 23 29.9%

  • Total voters
    77
We've basically wasted a year of developing Butler by giving Forrest a spot in the rotation over him, and it was all for nothing since Forrest is going to be completely unplayable in the playoffs anyway.
This is the worst part of it. Yeah sure, Butler is not going to be a huge difference-maker this year, but by god neither is Forrest as he cannot shoot and is easily negated. Butler has so much more potential than Forrest that we are just wasting, throwing right in the *****er. I don't care if he makes 3 mistakes in the first 2 minutes on the floor. In the next 8-10 he was generating some real plays and getting more comfortable with the offense and his defense is on par with Forrest, playing during the injury and covid stretch, and if you gave him those minutes consistently he would improve. Remember, Forrest went through the same learning curve last year and into this year before he started to be comfortable and stable in the vaunted System of the Snyder. But no, Butler had to be benched as soon as everyone was healthy because what, we already invested 2 years in Forrest, so the sunk cost wins out over the high-value gamble? Stupid people management from the FO and coaching staff. It will come back to bite us as soon as we realize that in the playoffs Forrest is this year's Niang, completely unplayable and adds nothing, whereas during the regular seasons we relied on him way too much, so now we have nothing else to show to make up for his empty spot in the playoffs.

We have seriously taken 2 steps back as a team this year. I will be happily surprised if we win in the first round, and I seriously doubt we can do anything in the 2nd round at all.
 
We've basically wasted a year of developing Butler by giving Forrest a spot in the rotation over him, and it was all for nothing since Forrest is going to be completely unplayable in the playoffs anyway.
We wasted a draft pick to get a PG who's behind Forrest in the pecking order. Would've been much better if we can get a 3/4 like Herb Jones with the pick.
 
We wasted a draft pick to get a PG who's behind Forrest in the pecking order. Would've been much better if we can get a 3/4 like Herb Jones with the pick.
I am ok with the Butler pick, but only if they actually work to get him into the system. The wasted pick was the Doke pick. So many good wings went around when he did that we whiffed on, for what exactly? Yeah, that pick was the worst we have had in a long time.
 
We've basically wasted a year of developing Butler by giving Forrest a spot in the rotation over him, and it was all for nothing since Forrest is going to be completely unplayable in the playoffs anyway.
If only there were some internet geniuses screaming that this would happen…
 
We wasted a draft pick to get a PG who's behind Forrest in the pecking order. Would've been much better if we can get a 3/4 like Herb Jones with the pick.
And with any luck he could have edged out Hughes for his spot. Maybe.
 
I am ok with the Butler pick, but only if they actually work to get him into the system. The wasted pick was the Doke pick. So many good wings went around when he did that we whiffed on, for what exactly? Yeah, that pick was the worst we have had in a long time.
I wanted JB… so I’m kind of biased. The issue is really not letting him play and develop after sliding back to take him in the second round. Once we did that he only has a two year deal and you need to accelerate his development. If coach and front office weren’t on the same page you look at a guy that can get time immediately or take the guy you want at 30 so you can be more patient.

JB will be an nba player health permitting… I’m not sure he will get the chance to do it here.
 
And with any luck he could have edged out Hughes for his spot. Maybe.
Hughes is gone. So is Oni. Herb Jones will be the third or even second SF on our depth chart. We have a clear need at the 3/4 position, unlike the PG spot or our backcourt in general.
 
Hughes is gone. So is Oni. Herb Jones will be the third or even second SF on our depth chart. We have a clear need at the 3/4 position, unlike the PG spot or our backcourt in general.
Yes, we all may see it that way. The problem is that us seeing it that way doesn’t correlate that strongly with those (or he) who has say, seeing it that way.
 
Yes, we all may see it that way. The problem is that us seeing it that way doesn’t correlate that strongly with those (or he) who has say, seeing it that way.
I believe Herb wasn’t even starting on their summer league team. Dudes need opportunity in real games to prove their value. Especially dudes like Herb.
 
Yes, we all may see it that way. The problem is that us seeing it that way doesn’t correlate that strongly with those (or he) who has say, seeing it that way.
I said earlier I don't think Jones would see much opportunities this season either had we drafted him. Simply because we have too many guys whose whole offensive game are based purely on spacing. But once these guys phase out and emphasis is not on spacing any more, we are better set up for the future with Herb Jones in the lineup with Rudy.
 
I said earlier I don't think Jones would see much opportunities this season either had we drafted him. Simply because we have too many guys whose whole offensive game are based purely on spacing. But once these guys phase out and emphasis is not on spacing any more, we are better set up for the future with Herb Jones in the lineup with Rudy.
You will need a new coach for that to happen.
 
Missing on pick #30 isn't something to get bothered at. It's a total crapshoot. Seeing the defense get slaughtered two times in a row and throwing 35 year old Rudy Gay at that issue is a much worse crime.
 
You will need a new coach for that to happen.
Nah... remember 2018, we had Briky Ricky, Crowder and Favs in the same lineup. Herb Jones would've seen plenty of opportunities then...... Quin certainly isn't afraid of throwing non-shooters on the floor. He just needs that extra shooting to maximize Bogey/Conley/Royce. He's working with what he has.
 
I’m not sure we do honestly. Even if we do, we’d get suckered in the second round by PHX, GSW or MEM.
 
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