Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

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  1. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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    Incorrect. Blind to the facts. From Browning's essay, posted earlier in this thread:


    "In the 1920s, the US pursued isolationism in foreign policy and rejected participation in international organizations like the League of Nations. America First was America alone, except for financial agreements like the Dawes and Young Plans aimed at ensuring that our “free-loading” former allies could pay back their war loans. At the same time, high tariffs crippled international trade, making the repayment of those loans especially difficult. The country witnessed an increase in income disparity and a concentration of wealth at the top, and both Congress and the courts eschewed regulations to protect against the self-inflicted calamities of free enterprise run amok. The government also adopted a highly restrictionist immigration policy aimed at preserving the hegemony of white Anglo-Saxon Protestants against an influx of Catholic and Jewish immigrants. (Various measures barring Asian immigration had already been implemented between 1882 and 1917.) These policies left the country unable to respond constructively to either the Great Depression or the rise of fascism, the growing threat to peace, and the refugee crisis of the 1930s.

    Today, President Trump seems intent on withdrawing the US from the entire post–World War II structure of interlocking diplomatic, military, and economic agreements and organizations that have preserved peace, stability, and prosperity since 1945. His preference for bilateral relations, conceived as zero-sum rivalries in which he is the dominant player and “wins,” overlaps with the ideological preference of Steve Bannon and the so-called alt-right for the unfettered self-assertion of autonomous, xenophobic nation-states—in short, the pre-1914 international system. That “international anarchy” produced World War I, the Bolshevik Revolution, the Great Depression, the fascist dictatorships, World War II, and the Holocaust, precisely the sort of disasters that the post–World War II international system has for seven decades remarkably avoided."
     
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  2. babe

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    It's always possible to construct a point of view and pull in some more or less convenient imagery to prove it "fact". I consider the type of essay you've employed here to be the rough equivalent of a Marxist pamphlet calling for "the workers of the world" to unite under some mob barker on a box in the town square.

    you consistently ignore the reality of your street barker "community organizer" leadership that directs your "resistance", and you are in determined denial of the facts of what you are doing.

    Trump has no political agenda just an economic vision of the United States doing better deals. Trump is no kind of ideological thinker, just a person who experienced one kind of American principled governance to a degree who still thinks that traditional American governance is a more practical method for getting things done. He is no threat to globalists in the long run. Treating him like a global crisis is just stupid.

    The reality of a general public that thinks you're all that stupid might seem like an inconvenience while you're still intent upon your little campaign to resist reality, but the fact is, you're just making it worse for yourself.

    Decoupling voter sentiments is essential to the general plan of top-down management. Preventing voters from having any effective input is always necessary for effective management of anything.

    China has a huge advantage over the United States because there is no "Constitutional Interference" with policy. China at the moment is presenting a unified top-down organized operation under Xi, but the reality is always something else. If you do no provide people with some kind of input, you will face instability from another side of human nature. Tyrants have a very high death rate, and their governments are inherently unstable because of power-seeking cliques. Stalin had to routinely kill his closest advisors when they became popular with the public.

    You are raging 'round the palace in a mob trying to destroy Trump. Dems are employing every possible device to "win the vote", except listening to the people or acting in their interest.

    People have noticed your insanity. People have noticed your inhumanity. People have noticed your disrespect for them. People have begun rejecting you for the totalitarians you are.

    People want their government back.

    I don't know if Trump just got in front of that sentiment or if he is really that kind of leader. But the fact is, Trump will have to live up to that idea or he will be out quicker himself.

    Americans aren't buying totalitarian government, whether it's R or D.
     
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  3. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Im pretty disappointed that trump didn't tell the public about secrets like who shot kennedy, roswell, area 51, etc etc. I thought he was going to give us some of that info.
     
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  4. JAZZGASM

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    You didn't get that memo from Trump? Here is the summary:

    1. The Kennedy assassination was orchestrated by the Russians.
    2. Roswell-See Project Mogul.
    3. Area 51 is a decoy.
     
  5. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    I thought Ted Cruz’s Dad killed Kennedy?
     
  6. Red

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    There ya go, fixed that for you...
     
  7. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Soooooo

    Is Kaepernick going to receive a stronger response from Donald than the Saudi Prince for murdering a journalist and dismembering his body?

    All of the lame *** excuses aren’t exactly convincing me that we should bury this human rights atrocity. Excuses such as, “he wasn’t an American citizen” and “well Saudi Arabia spends billions here.”

    America used to lead. America used to care about human rights. America used to try and be a good guy. Our moral compass is gone.
     
  8. silesian

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    The notion that reporting should be 50% is interesting.

    Should reporting on FDR (or Reagan, or whoever you believe to be an effective president) have been 50% positive/ 50% negative?
    Should reporting on Carter ( or Nixon, or whoever you believe to be an ineffective president) have been 50% positive/ 50% negative?

    Trump lies every day. Not a big fan of the press, but I am glad they are there to call him out.

    Trump is an amazing marketer. He has brilliantly manipulated the working class to support policies that benefit the rich. We are a nation that has embraced snake oil salesman throughout our history, today is not new.

    And seriously, the one major benefit he has provided is emboldening bigots who have now been exposed. Their shame will stay with them after we regain our sanity.
     
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  9. babe

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    America used to have a foreign policy. Alliance with none, commerce with all. No moral judgments.

    we're in no position to prove what happened to Khashogi, all we have is allegations from hostile interested parties. I don't think our CIA can even get the truth on this one, if they cared to. Is he an American citizen? If not, nobody is obligated to return the remains to us for our forensic study.

    ha ha.

    projection. That's the psychological term. A common liar tactic, given their resources, habits, and talents.... when like some deer in the headlights, frozen with fear....liars project. they accuse others.

    So here, Hillary got caught selling our uranium or approving the sale for a huge amount of personal cash, to the Russians.

    a lot like Billary gave the Chinese our missile guidance technology.

    In global terms, like my cuz Maurice Strong would say, it's no crime because it's all good in the cause of leveling the playing field between global partners.

    The stories keep drifting, I'm in no position to know the facts. Pretty sure the Russians were glad to take Hillary's money for that dossier they made up. Pretty sure CIA chief Brennan discussed some related stuff when he visited Putin in March 2016. Pretty sure Russia hasn't missed an election here since 1930. Gus Hall and all. But Russia had no more of an idea Trump could win than Hillary had. Pretty sure the real Russian money was on Hillary.

    You didn't notice how the Dems threw Rosenstein under the bus to protect Bruce Orhh. But Rosenstein did. And Trump did. Looks like Trump has got a good source now about what and why and who in the whole DumpTrump saga. Don't know how it touches you or your sources. But Trump decided not to prosecute the case. No matter how the crowds do the Hillary chant nowadays. Too divisive. Trump just wants to win the next election and do some stuff he thinks will help Americans have a better life. After that, he'll be glad to build another skyscraper. No real totalitarian here.

    kinda strange to me to hear Dems howling about Russia. Especially when China is doing great business putting little spy chips in all our computer junk they make for us, including our military gear, and working out lucrative self-serving deals with all our politicians like Feinstein and McConnell.

    nah, Red. You know Trump is one hundredth the totalitarian Hillary would have been. You just imagine her way is the good way.
     
  10. silesian

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    Please share with us how you know the CIA has no evidence. Thanks.
     
  11. silesian

    silesian Well-Known Member

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    Psychological projection. I don’t think that means what you think it means.
     
  12. Bulletproof

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    Babe with the flat out lies again...

    NO ****ING URANIUM GOT SOLD TO THE RUSSIANS.

    You know that, so saying it now for like the 100th time, you are lying on purpose with the intent to deceive. You are the worst kind of liar. You are not a good person. You have no integrity or honer. You are just a low down liar.
     
  13. One Brow

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    Now, let's be fair. He really believes the uranium sale happened. He's a delusional, conspiracy-minded, ignorant, evidence-ignoring blowhard, but he's not a liar.
     
  14. Bulletproof

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    I have been over this exact issue with him before. He admitted the basic facts that a Russian mining company was given the contract to extract the Uranium and that it never left North America bound for Russia, the contract was just for pulling it out of the ground. So he knows the facts and he is intentionally lying about it with the intent to deceive. There's no other way to look at it. And my opinion of him as a deceitful liar is set. I have never had him on ignore because I didn't feel he was being dishonest, but that has changed with him posting that after he and I have discussed that before and he acknowledged the facts.
     
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  15. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    i <3 u
     
  16. Heathme

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    Be sure to vote everyone. Here are 10 reasons to vote Republican:
     
  17. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    The paranoia and hyperbole is strong in the republican party
     
  18. Heathme

    Heathme Well-Known Member

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    I actually posted Ben Shapiro because he laid out facts as he always does.
     
  19. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I didn’t make it past 5. He kind of had a point in two of them but he left out vital information.

    Such as the Rs are owning the game of court stacking on ideological lines. It’s not that the dems will begin the game it’s that the will score points again in a game already in programs.

    But shhh Rs are good...
     
  20. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Just enough to perk up your ears before ideologically misleading people and torpedoing his point.
     

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