Donald is about to go through some things...

[The Thriller]

These guys all sound exactly like their Democratic counterparts.

Older but still relevant:


View: https://twitter.com/billkristol/status/1684683958481485825?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw



View: https://twitter.com/willhurd/status/1686494041159139328?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw



View: https://twitter.com/heathmayo/status/1686529153091174400?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw



View: https://twitter.com/ambjohnbolton/status/1686521513506136065?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw



View: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1686491442707865600?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw

https://twitter.com/mike_pence/status/1686529371685658625?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw

This Is the Case

Special Counsel Jack Smith has sounded the call, but voters must answer it if they wish to preserve American democracy.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Gameface]

Right. I agree.

But I don’t see how there’s a different take from a conservative to liberal view on these indictments. You either break the law or don’t.

Also, are you and LG no longer considered conservatives?

I don’t like the idea that I felt was insinuated (and could’ve been mistaken) that in order to be conservative you have to defend Trump’s ****.

For what it’s worth, The indictments today are being praised by liberals and conservatives in my social media feeds in very much the same way.

I'm not really a conservative anymore. Not even close, really. That is because conservatives have moved right and I've moved left. I have always been essentially extreme in my social/cultural liberalism, but I was in a weird spot where I was anti-regulation, pro-gun, small government advocate, anti-tax, pro-military, and ultra pro-USA.

I've never been a nationalist, though. I think most conservatives today are nationalists (the most common downfall of great nations) they have moved away from sober conservatism and competent military management in favor of party sorority girl style conservatism and ideological purity style military leadership. The trumpers are having a party at the end of (their) universe.

 

[JazzGal]

Why? How would a conservative voice differ from a liberal one with the indictments that came down today?

Is there a conservative argument that would defend/excuse Trump’s behavior in late 2020 and early 2021?

Maybe not, but I'd be interested to have a reasonable person explain their viewpoint.

And I mean a conservative in today's vernacular, that has moved farther right along with the party, but not a die hard MAGA.

 

[TheStormofWar]

I'm not really a conservative anymore. Not even close, really. That is because conservatives have moved right and I've moved left.

Same here. I used to be Republican, but the party veered way hard right and I couldn't get behind it. Ever being GOP again ceased to be a thing for me when winning a Primary became about which Derp could out derp the other Derps. It ceased to be about ideas, family, and community. It's now literally womb raiding, Semi-Auto Jesus, openly demonizing "teh geys", and openly flirting with guys we would have knocked around in any other time in history.

 

[fishonjazz]

I was, and remain, just an american. Im not a democrat or republican, liberal or conservative.

I hate the two party system and the two parties.

 

[fishonjazz]

Through all trumps indictments and past crimes this most recent one is the one I care about most and the one I most want him to be convicted of and given a harsh sentence for.

 

[LogGrad98]

I was, and remain, just an american. Im not a democrat or republican, liberal or conservative.

I hate the two party system and the two parties.

This. I've leaned conservative in the past but mostly always been something of a centrist. But when the conservatives pushed so far right I'm practically a card-carrying liberal now. But imo both parties are moving to the fringes. I'm more of a libertarian bent but not the extremes of that dogma either. I'm with fish, and I've said for years, that the 2-party System will be our downfall. And here it is coming to fruition.

But I've become more liberal in recent years, mostly in the vein of live and let live. Do whatever the hell you want and let other people do what they want within the rules of our society in general. Treat each other the same, give each other the same courtesies and benefits within society regardless of their proclivities or your political, religious, or otherwise dogmatic beliefs. Because believe me for many people it's a pretty thin line between politics and religion.

I am deeply concerned about some things, such as the messages being sent to our children who are so impressionable, and the dangers of screen time and social media to them and to society as a whole. But I've also become much more of a nihilist than I've been in years past, so it kind of balances out.

 

[Gameface]

Trump will finally be able to reveal his election fraud evidence in court!

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Trump will finally be able to reveal his election fraud evidence in court!

Exhibit #1: The judge in this case.

DC Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan was Hunter Biden's coworker at the law firm of Boies Schiller Flexner where the two worked from 2009 to 2014 at which time someone who will remain nameless suggested to Obama that she should be made a DC Federal Judge. In cases related to January 6th, she has a 100% rate of incarcerating defendants, even in cases where the prosecution wasn't asking for jail time. In 64% of the January 6th-related cases she presided over she has unilaterally exceeded the sentences being asked for by the prosecution. If the DNC-owned DOJ wanted to send a message to Republicans about the consequences of prosecuting Hunter Biden, DC Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan is exactly who they would choose to be the messenger.

If you want to see evidence of the system being rigged by the DNC then Exhibit #1 is DC Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan being assigned to this case. The fix is so in at this point that they aren't even trying to hide how this looks.

Judge in Trump's case is 'toughest punisher' of Jan 6 rioters

DC federal Judge Tanya Chutkan, who was picked to oversee Trump's criminal case in the capital was declared 'the toughest punisher' of rioters charged with offenses relating to the 2021 riot.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Gameface]

Exhibit #1: The judge in this case.

DC Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan was Hunter Biden's coworker at the law firm of Boies Schiller Flexner where the two worked from 2009 to 2014 at which time someone who will remain nameless suggested to Obama that she should be made a DC Federal Judge. In cases related to January 6th, she has a 100% rate of incarcerating defendants, even in cases where the prosecution wasn't asking for jail time. In 64% of the January 6th-related cases she presided over she has unilaterally exceeded the sentences being asked for by the prosecution. If the DNC-owned DOJ wanted to send a message to Republicans about the consequences of prosecuting Hunter Biden, DC Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan is exactly who they would choose to be the messenger.

If you want to see evidence of the system being rigged by the DNC then Exhibit #1 is DC Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan being assigned to this case. The fix is so in at this point that they aren't even trying to hide how this looks.

Judge in Trump's case is 'toughest punisher' of Jan 6 rioters

DC federal Judge Tanya Chutkan, who was picked to oversee Trump's criminal case in the capital was declared 'the toughest punisher' of rioters charged with offenses relating to the 2021 riot.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I have you on ignore.

Can you show me the basic respect of not responding to me directly?

You called me a child abusing pedophile. We don't have anything to talk about, ever.

 

[LogGrad98]

Exhibit #1: The judge in this case.

DC Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan was Hunter Biden's coworker at the law firm of Boies Schiller Flexner where the two worked from 2009 to 2014 at which time someone who will remain nameless suggested to Obama that she should be made a DC Federal Judge. In cases related to January 6th, she has a 100% rate of incarcerating defendants, even in cases where the prosecution wasn't asking for jail time. In 64% of the January 6th-related cases she presided over she has unilaterally exceeded the sentences being asked for by the prosecution. If the DNC-owned DOJ wanted to send a message to Republicans about the consequences of prosecuting Hunter Biden, DC Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan is exactly who they would choose to be the messenger.

If you want to see evidence of the system being rigged by the DNC then Exhibit #1 is DC Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan being assigned to this case. The fix is so in at this point that they aren't even trying to hide how this looks.

Judge in Trump's case is 'toughest punisher' of Jan 6 rioters

DC federal Judge Tanya Chutkan, who was picked to oversee Trump's criminal case in the capital was declared 'the toughest punisher' of rioters charged with offenses relating to the 2021 riot.

www.dailymail.co.uk

You would have thought the litany of Trump appointed judges, investigators and prosecutors that handed down some of his indictments would have stopped this conspiracy in its tracks. Yet for some reason, they didn't. Huh.

 

[The Thriller]

I'm not really a conservative anymore. Not even close, really. That is because conservatives have moved right and I've moved left. I have always been essentially extreme in my social/cultural liberalism, but I was in a weird spot where I was anti-regulation, pro-gun, small government advocate, anti-tax, pro-military, and ultra pro-USA.

I've never been a nationalist, though. I think most conservatives today are nationalists (the most common downfall of great nations) they have moved away from sober conservatism and competent military management in favor of party sorority girl style conservatism and ideological purity style military leadership. The trumpers are having a party at the end of (their) universe.

I agree with this. I think you’re still mostly conservative but many former “conservatives” have become nationalists. What I hate is how nationalists have stolen what it means to be conservative, Christian, patriotic, etc.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I have you on ignore.

Can you show me the basic respect of not responding to me directly?

You called me a child abusing pedophile. We don't have anything to talk about, ever.

How about we, and by that I mean the entire board, stick to topics other than personally directed comments. If someone wants to talk about Trump, then talk about Trump. If it is governmental corruption then the topic is corruption. This board has become too infected for too long with personally directed comments and even group insults such as calling broad swaths of people stupid or insane. If you want to talk about a topic that isn't me, then bring it, but if what you have to say is about me personally then take a breath. The online ecosystem and even the world in general already has enough toxicity in it.

 

[The Thriller]

You would have thought the litany of Trump appointed judges, investigators and persecutors that handed down some of his indictments would have stopped this conspiracy in its tracks. Yet for some reason, they didn't. Huh.

We should make a deal with MAGA. The DOJ will drop all charges on Trump related to Jan 6 as long as Biden gets to do exactly what Trump did; ignore election results and use the military to oppress anyone who dissents. So in 2024, if Biden wins? He stays in office. If he loses? He can declare the election results to be fraudulent, have his VP throw out certification, use the military to quell any dissenters, and then stay in office for as long as he wants.

Do we have a deal? Think MAGA would agree to that?

LOL. The Trump arguments have become dumber and dumber over the years. They’re now justifying a heinous crime that would allow Biden (if he followed Trump’s example) to stay in power indefinitely. And you gotta love stuff like this:

“We have a two tiered system of Justice! Donald should receive special treatment!”

Wait, wouldn’t that be two tiered system of Justice then?


View: https://twitter.com/mikesington/status/1686732157723811840?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw

 

[fishonjazz]

Trumpers love to complain about what they think is trump getting picked on. Love to make him a victim
Yet they never complain about trump calling state officials to pressure them into finding just enough votes for him to win the electoral votes of that state. They never complain about trump pressuring Pence to not do his job so trump can stay in power. They never complain about trump using fake electors to steal the election. They never complain about him rallying his followers and sending them off to the white house in an attempt to stop congress from doing their jobs.

Its always poor old picked on trump is getting picked on again.

So predictable.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

We should make a deal with MAGA. The DOJ will drop all charges on Trump related to Jan 6 as long as Biden gets to do exactly what Trump did; ignore election results and use the military to oppress anyone who dissents. So in 2024, if Biden wins? He stays in office.

Didn't happen. Trump lost the election and didn't get to stay in office. That is why he's not the President. He lost. Biden won. Biden took the oath of office on January 20 and became President.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Trumpers love to complain about what they think is trump getting picked on. Love to make him a victim
Yet they never complain about trump calling state officials to pressure them into finding just enough votes for him to win the electoral votes of that state. They never complain about trump pressuring Pence to not do his job so trump can stay in power. They never complain about trump using fake electors to steal the election. They never complain about him rallying his followers and sending them off to the white house in an attempt to stop congress from doing their jobs.

Its always poor old picked on trump is getting picked on again.

So predictable.

It isn't about Trump. It is about the corruption and weaponization of the DOJ. If the Republicans were doing this I would be every bit as vocal in opposition to it.

 

[The Thriller]

Trumpers love to complain about what they think is trump getting picked on. Love to make him a victim
Yet they never complain about trump calling state officials to pressure them into finding just enough votes for him to win the electoral votes of that state. They never complain about trump pressuring Pence to not do his job so trump can stay in power. They never complain about trump using fake electors to steal the election. They never complain about him rallying his followers and sending them off to the white house in an attempt to stop congress from doing their jobs.

Its always poor old picked on trump is getting picked on again.

So predictable.

Yep! So predictable.

I also love how they’re complaining about Dems’ “election interference.” As if they have no choice in choosing their leader right now. What’s stopping the base from saying, “thanks donald, you got us 3 judges and tax cuts and totally made libs cry so hard. But your time is up and we’re moving to someone else.”

You know what would totes own the libs? Bigly? Is if they got behind another R candidate. Then all the time and effort that the libs, Soros, Cheney, Kinzinger, Pelosi, globalists, deep state, swamp, Italian satellites, Hugo Chavez, Biden, Hillary, Obama, Democrat judges, FBI, etc made to “get him so he couldn’t win in 2024” would be for nothing! Then the senile Biden socialist communist Chinese puppet and crime kingpin, would face a candidate that wasn’t facing 3+ trials in 2024. Oh noes! Total lib ownage!

But we all know they won’t. They know his crimes are legit. And they know other candidates would be better. They just don’t care. They want trump. He gives them entertainment. He gives them permission to act their worst selves. They’d rather go down with trump than win with anyone else.

 

[str8line]

It isn't about Trump. It is about the corruption and weaponization of the DOJ. If the Republicans were doing this I would be every bit as vocal in opposition to it.

The DOJ going after Trump is not weaponization, they are doing what they're supposed to do.

 

[One Brow]

The online ecosystem and even the world in general already has enough toxicity in it.

One way to detoxify interpersonal relationships is to apologize for unintentional hurt caused. You have not done this. It leads me to think the hurt was intentional.