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Ugh. To me education is pretty much the last thing that should be cut. I say let’s massively redo the education system. Who teaches, what they teach, how they teach it. And double the education budget at the same time. Hell triple it.

I’m willing to cut a **** ton of programs and other agency funding for education.

What are some things you’d like to see implemented?

Class sizes of 10-20 kids

Higher standards and as a result pay and benefits for teachers

Dramatically pushing multi lingual education.

Just off the top of my head. To me education(of one kind or another) is the answer, or at least a major part of, to most anything.
 
I agree that education is vital. There's no doubt in my mind that education does not receive enough funding. At the same time though, I'm not sure I trust officials to spend the money correctly. I see so much waste in the schools it's sickening. but that's true with any government funded program or project.
I really don't like the "common core" aspect. I think each school should be allowed to create a direction, plan, and programs to cater their needs. Inner-city schools need an entirely different set-up than affluent schools. There's just too much rigidity to it, IMO. The way it appears to be designed is for the middle of the road students. That leaves the students who are behind to only far farther behind, while the advanced student doesn't get challenged like they need. I've experienced both of those scenarios with my own kid. There was only so much attention the teacher could give my daughter who was a little behind in reading. My wife and I had to find the time (we were glad to do it, it's our responsibility, but spare time is not something we have an abundance of) to work with her. Right now, my 1st grader could use a little more challenge. He's so far above his grade level in everything he gets bored. We've got him in a French Immersion program so he gets the foreign language training as well, but it's still not enough.
 
Really good points @bigb

I agree that there is to much rigidness. I’d like to see federal funding and then all decisions left up to individual districts.

The immersion education will start slow but build. Not many people for him to speak French to. But the next generation and the one after?

I’d like to see more real world skills and ingenuity included. Present a problem and let them figure out how to solve it. Say an engebirring or technical problem.

See what they create. Teach people to think. Outdoor classes

Pushing more parental involvement. Maybe tax breaks or some ****. But the involvement for all I care. Just something.

I’d like to see a masters degree be required for someone to be a teacher. Dramatically increase their pay and benefits. But make it possible to fire bad teachers. Maybe an offset of the two will satisfy teachers unions.

I just genuinely believe we are failing our future
 
I am a big proponent of vocational/technical education at the high school level - less insistence that a college prep educational path to a four-year (or more) degree is the best course for everyone

less technology in the classroom, particularly in the early elementary years - let students read books, write with pencils, do math without a calculator etc
 
Tend to like most of the ideas in this thread. But yeah, the by far #1 to me is teacher pay (this extends to things like daycare providers). Secondly for me is that the process needs to be sped up, those last ~2 years of high school could easily be tech/vocational school for some and college prep for others.
 
I think we need vouchers. Give all parents the ability to essentially hire the teachers/schools that they believe would be best for their students and I believe that significant improvements would follow.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I think we need vouchers. Give all parents the ability to essentially hire the teachers/schools that they believe would be best for their students and I believe that significant improvements would follow.
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I'm not a big fan of this one. Plenty of kids are already 'punished' educationally by a parent who doesn't give a crap about their education and this would only exasperate that problem.

Also as a rural individual (something like 1/4 of students and 1/3 of schools are considered rural) I just don't see how his would do anything for us.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I think we need vouchers. Give all parents the ability to essentially hire the teachers/schools that they believe would be best for their students and I believe that significant improvements would follow.
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How are these vouchers acquired?

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bigb said:
I see so much waste in the schools it's sickening. but that's true with any government funded program or project.
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It's also true of any large-scale privately-funded program or project. It's just that no private organization can large-scale like the government.
 
moevillini said:
I am a big proponent of vocational/technical education at the high school level - less insistence that a college prep educational path to a four-year (or more) degree is the best course for everyone
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I don't think we should tell a person at age 15 or 16 that they have a limit on what they can accomplish. You can train a person with a strong, general education to weld just as easily as you can train a person with a more limited education who is two years younger. However, when the person spent the last two years of high school learning to weld instead of learning English, math, science, and civics, it's much harder for them to learn enough to start their own business, go into politics, or change their careers radically.

moevillini said:
less technology in the classroom, particularly in the early elementary years - let students read books, write with pencils, do math without a calculator etc
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I agree with reading books. Using a keyboard or a calculator allows teachers to free up type to talk about other aspects of writing (grammar, structure, etc.) and math (sets, comparisons, etc.), so that's a more difficult field to navigate.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I think we need vouchers. Give all parents the ability to essentially hire the teachers/schools that they believe would be best for their students and I believe that significant improvements would follow.
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In areas where vouchers are available, their overall effect has been neutral in academic achievement for students that used them, and raised the cost per pupil of the public schools.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
The money that is allocated for education is given to parents in the form of vouchers. The parents decide which schools and programs they are willing to spend their vouchers on. The idea is to create competition in the marketplace in order to promote quality education.
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Given? Did Bernie Sanders hack Joe's account?
Socialist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I worked in education for over 10 years. At the high school level, and at the university level. Pretty damn messy. I'm not itching to go back, that's for sure. De-funding it is obviously the wrong direction.
 
NAOS said:
....you really set yourself up in this post. I'll let someone else take the first swing...
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I will be interested to see if anyone besides you would want to take a swing at me for a harmless joke.

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