Exum Update

[elan_prodigy]

God Exum is the epitome of blue balls.

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Would rep.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

So who are you proposing to bench?

Burks and Neto. Neto has averaged about 12.5 MPG so all of those should immediately go to Exum. Then Alec has been playing backup 2 so whatever minutes are there should be going to Dante as well. I think between 15-20 minutes for the rest of the season is fine. We have Royce on a deal for 3 years so if we need to cut his minutes slightly as well it's not a big deal. He's been coming back to earth recently anyway. You can't prioritize him over Exum given all the context of their contracts and ceiling.

 

[JazzForLifee]

i m going to the game next thursday. will be awesome if exum comes back. will give him a standing ovation for sure


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[JazzForLifee]

and yeah. **** tj warren


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[elan_prodigy]

i m going to the game next thursday. will be awesome if exum comes back. will give him a standing ovation for sure


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[Thee Jazz Fan]

Its funny how everyone can give Crowder/Rubio the benefit of the doubt saying he needs a full offseason to get the playbook down. Yet Exum has only just had his first offseason where he wasnt recovering from injury. Its all so hypocritical.

For one. Dante is 22 and was a raw project, once we signed Hill I never expected Dante to take over fulltime until he has 24-25, thats still 2-3yrs away. How come people can be patient with Rubio/Crowder/Ingles but not Exum...

Baffles me.

Do u not forget jazzfanzers going ******* on Rubio earlier in the year?? Most including me were calling for him to be benched, then he figure and has played much better, and Crowder is a proven vet who legitimately needs time to acclimate to his new team

Exum deserves to play Period. Has tremendous upside, everyone else in this conversation is much closer to their actual or theoretical ceiling. I like Burks, but he dumb and Quin don't. Mitchell has plateaued in the last 20 games, part of the reason is defenses are more concentrated on him. But I have no doubt Exum will earn the time. Can't wait.

Are u saying he deserves to play because of upside?? God I hope not.

Look, I'm as big a supporter of Exum as anyone here, and even I know u can't just throw Exum out there logging heavy minutes when we are trying to make the playoffs. Exum has high upside, but that isn't getting realized in the next 15-20 games, however many are remaining in the year. The minutes he gets if he gets back will depend on how good his defense is that's where his value lies for this team this year.

 

[Ellipse]

I think we are on the same page... he needs 15 minutes a night and because of the low minutes Snyder needs to live with his mistakes and let him play through them more.

It really depends on how well the team functions when Exum is on the floor. The margin for making the playoffs is too small for the team to stink it up for 10 minutes a night. We've seen how bad the team performs when AB/Hood/Neto played poorly and we don't want a repeat of that, just so Exum has a chance to find his game. He needs to hit the ground running -- which is a pretty tall order for any player coming back from a major injury.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

It really depends on how well the team functions when Exum is on the floor. The margin for making the playoffs is too small for the team to stink it up for 10 minutes a night. We've seen how bad the team performs when AB/Hood/Neto played poorly and we don't want a repeat of that, just so Exum has a chance to find his game. He needs to hit the ground running -- which is a pretty tall order for any player coming back from a major injury.

Nobody is saying heavy minutes. 15-20 is a reserve role and is fine to start. If he plays great we can talk about increasing them. I think the key is to actually let him play consistent minutes instead of jerking them around if he makes a few mistakes. In that way Quin needs to treat him like Rubio who played some of the worst basketball I've seen without getting benched earlier in the season.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It really depends on how well the team functions when Exum is on the floor. The margin for making the playoffs is too small for the team to stink it up for 10 minutes a night. We've seen how bad the team performs when AB/Hood/Neto played poorly and we don't want a repeat of that, just so Exum has a chance to find his game. He needs to hit the ground running -- which is a pretty tall order for any player coming back from a major injury.

I don’t think Exum will be worse than AB at all. Exum needs some leash. The difference between Neto and Exum won’t hurt us imo.

The Dante Stans can be irrational but I’ve seen Rocky get to play through some awful turnovers this year that would have gotten Dante benched. I think a lot of the way Dante was treated in the past was Hayward being frustrated with him. Need to live with some of his garbage now to help him not worry about getting yanked and just play.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Nobody is saying heavy minutes. 15-20 is a reserve role and is fine to start. If he plays great we can talk about increasing them. I think the key is to actually let him play consistent minutes instead of jerking them around if he makes a few mistakes. In that way Quin needs to treat him like Rubio who played some of the worst basketball I've seen without getting benched earlier in the season.

The flaw in this is the jazz can't afford to play Exum higher mins then what Burks gets if he's going to make mistakes like he did last year. If he's going to get 15-20 mins, he needs to earn it like Royce did this year. I love exum and think he will be a star in this league, but I'm in favor of him earning his minutes. Ultimately, it will benefit him, and force him to improve and realize his potential. He is extremely raw still and needs to be brought along at a slower pace.

Even if he wasn't so raw, he hasn't played at all and isn't ready for 15-20 min. Jazz are in win every game mode to make the playoffs and Exum isn't in game shape.

 

[elan_prodigy]

The flaw in this is the jazz can't afford to play Exum higher mins then what Burks gets if he's going to make mistakes like he did last year. If he's going to get 15-20 mins, he needs to earn it like Royce did this year. I love exum and think he will be a star in this league, but I'm in favor of him earning his minutes. Ultimately, it will benefit him, and force him to improve and realize his potential. He is extremely raw still and needs to be brought along at a slower pace.

Even if he wasn't so raw, he hasn't played at all and isn't ready for 15-20 min. Jazz are in win every game mode to make the playoffs and Exum isn't in game shape.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

The flaw in this is the jazz can't afford to play Exum higher mins then what Burks gets if he's going to make mistakes like he did last year. If he's going to get 15-20 mins, he needs to earn it like Royce did this year. I love exum and think he will be a star in this league, but I'm in favor of him earning his minutes. Ultimately, it will benefit him, and force him to improve and realize his potential. He is extremely raw still and needs to be brought along at a slower pace.

Even if he wasn't so raw, he hasn't played at all and isn't ready for 15-20 min. Jazz are in win every game mode to make the playoffs and Exum isn't in game shape.

Dante's mistakes were WAAAY overblown last year. I have pointed this out time and again but he had something like 10 bad pass TO's all of last season. I'm sorry but his mistakes were incredibly magnified last year by the fanbase. I've never seen anything quite like it. The truth is that Quin (in his own words) was much much harder on Exum than he has been on other players. Let's not feed in to a false narrative that he was out there making a ton of mistakes because it just isn't true.

Exum earned more minutes than Mack last season. It was clear that he was the better player over the second half of the year both statistically and ceiling-wise. He's smart and I garuntee you he was aware of all of this. yet Quin still went with Mack. That simply can't happen anymore. Exum has earned the right to get a consistent role the rest of the year because of the work he put in and the level he was playing at in preseason as well as the last half of last year. IF you disagree then that's fine. I don't think Royce's minutes are even going to come into the decision as he's mostly playing backup 3 now. 66% of his minutes have been at the 3 this year and my perception is that it's been more like 90% recently.

Edit: Sorry it was 45 for bad pass TO's. I must have been thinking of a different stat or they updated it. His TO% was still well within norms and was lower last season than his rookie year even though he was more aggressive.