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Honestly they're ****ing everywhere, I know a copper who's working in sexual exploitation, used to be a uniform over the road from work, said they're everywhere in all forms of life where they have access to kids. Kids sport, scouts and so on. Guy I worked with for years at a well known Melbourne pub, who I used to mentor is facing charges at the moment. You think you ****ing know somebody?
 
I'd be careful with confusing what happened vs. could have happened right now. I realize the defense is stating that the dummies worked with the FBI and are essentially used as pawns, but we don't know that for sure. Always a possibility, but as for me, I'd want to gain more information first to help me make a clear determination.

One of the dangers with social media like YouTube, Reddit, whatever is we jump to conclusions and develop concrete guiding principles without getting the full picture sometimes. It unfortunately leads to witch hunts that can sometimes destroy people or groups when they deserve fair time to tell their side of the story.

I have no doubt that the FBI has done some shady stuff before because let's be honest, corruption happens all around us and bad actors can live in the FBI just as well as anywhere.
I have lost all faith in American security organizations. They are just politicized as any other.
 
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Honestly they're ****ing everywhere, I know a copper who's working in sexual exploitation, used to be a uniform over the road from work, said they're everywhere in all forms of life where they have access to kids. Kids sport, scouts and so on. Guy I worked with for years at a well known Melbourne pub, who I used to mentor is facing charges at the moment. You think you ****ing know somebody?

Yup. And that’s these days, imagine in years gone by before anyone ever spoke about it. There’s a special place in hell for these types and the people who defend them.

Why tf they don’t just let a bunch of the parents of the victims have a few hours alone with him is beyond me
 
Yup. And that’s these days, imagine in years gone by before anyone ever spoke about it. There’s a special place in hell for these types and the people who defend them.

Why tf they don’t just let a bunch of the parents of the victims have a few hours alone with him is beyond me


Some of the protections for them are mad, protective custody in prison, supported living in the community. If they had any decency they'd kill themselves.
 
Honestly they're ****ing everywhere, I know a copper who's working in sexual exploitation, used to be a uniform over the road from work, said they're everywhere in all forms of life where they have access to kids. Kids sport, scouts and so on. Guy I worked with for years at a well known Melbourne pub, who I used to mentor is facing charges at the moment. You think you ****ing know somebody?

This terrifies me. My wife is at church right now with our kids. It’s not my cup. I’ll go a few times a year but not much. Today, they’re there. I worry when they’re alone in the nursery or wherever. I don’t know these ****ing people. And my wife just thinks everyone is nice.
 
This terrifies me. My wife is at church right now with our kids. It’s not my cup. I’ll go a few times a year but not much. Today, they’re there. I worry when they’re alone in the nursery or wherever. I don’t know these ****ing people. And my wife just thinks everyone is nice.

Im not so worried about the church stuff, no child of mine will ever have anything to do with religion. Or the scouts, **** we used beat the kids at the scout hall up at the footy club, (it was next to our club rooms) they changed nights to make sure we weren't training.

The sports club thing came as a shock to me, as a kid I was always involved in sports clubs. Cricket, football, basketball, baseball, it was almost everyday of the week (my poor parents) it was great. The thought that those bastards could be getting around there makes me horrified.
 
Honestly they're ****ing everywhere, I know a copper who's working in sexual exploitation, used to be a uniform over the road from work, said they're everywhere in all forms of life where they have access to kids. Kids sport, scouts and so on. Guy I worked with for years at a well known Melbourne pub, who I used to mentor is facing charges at the moment. You think you ****ing know somebody?
The guy I knew in high school, who I would have probably called a friend, although we weren't that close, appeared in the news about 10 years after we graduated from high school. Seems he killed his two children, his wife, and then himself. It kind of blew me away because he was always kind of quiet and mild-mannered and just a nice guy. I ran into a mutual friend after I had heard about this and we discussed it, and he told me that his family and his wife's family believed that what had happened was he had been molesting his daughter, and his wife found out and confronted him, and he snapped. When you said you think you know a guy, it made me think of that. Kind of mind boggling.
 
Im not so worried about the church stuff, no child of mine will ever have anything to do with religion. Or the scouts, **** we used beat the kids at the scout hall up at the footy club, (it was next to our club rooms) they changed nights to make sure we weren't training.

The sports club thing came as a shock to me, as a kid I was always involved in sports clubs. Cricket, football, basketball, baseball, it was almost everyday of the week (my poor parents) it was great. The thought that those bastards could be getting around there makes me horrified.
There are positive things about being in the scouts. For one, there is a good chance the kid will learn about male anatomy.
 
The guy I knew in high school, who I would have probably called a friend, although we weren't that close, appeared in the news about 10 years after we graduated from high school. Seems he killed his two children, his wife, and then himself. It kind of blew me away because he was always kind of quiet and mild-mannered and just a nice guy. I ran into a mutual friend after I had heard about this and we discussed it, and he told me that his family and his wife's family believed that what had happened was he had been molesting his daughter, and his wife found out and confronted him, and he snapped. When you said you think you know a guy, it made me think of that. Kind of mind boggling.


Yeah its a bit ****ed, being able to judge people is a significant part of what I do, I've spent the best part of 15 years working with people who've committed offences against children, you tend to get a feel off them. Old mate I bounced with I never would have picked it in a thousand years.
 
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