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Losing Interest said:
Toney Jones and SI saying Jazz are high on Bryant and Fleming (I like Fleming). Jones acknowledges the Jazz would have to move up from 21 to get him.
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I think Fleming's floor is 16. I just dont see the Magic passing on a prospect with his length who can also shoot and plays a position of need (assuming they dont retain Mo Wagner. Feel like they will, but maybe the money is too tight to bring on a 11 million dollar bench player?)
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, you're a moron.
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1.5 BPG in the A-10 as a Junior and his tape is massively worse but but but His Standing Reach!

He's a big PF with intriguing ball handling and shooting skill. If anyone thought he was a real center, he would be a top 7 pick. Literally everyone disagrees with you. You might be right, but there's basically nothing here other than his standing reach that suggests he can play center and not suck at it.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
1.5 BPG in the A-10 as a Junior and his tape is massively worse but but but His Standing Reach!
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Im not saying he's Rudy Gobert or any other number of rim protecting specialist, but he's a legitimate rim protecting threat who has potential to switch 1-5, guard 3 primary positions, and a much better defensive prospect than Naz Reid. I just get annoyed when people say incredibly stupid things.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Im not saying he's Rudy Gobert or any other number of rim protecting specialist, but he's a legitimate rim protecting threat who has potential to switch 1-5, guard 3 primary positions, and a much better defensive prospect than Naz Reid. I just get annoyed when people say incredibly stupid things.
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I'm pretty sure you told me that a prospect needs to have a 8% or higher BLK% to be able to be considered a rim protector in the NBA. Fleming had a 4.9% BLK% last year.

I swear I'm not calling you out, but it would be nice to get more clarity on what you are referring to here and where you came up with that 8% number.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Wasn't my point. People love jumping on stuff without reading.

My only point is that small strong guards can get away with guarding bigger players in the NBA.
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No you used one time schemed defense as an example of "how smaller guys and guard bigger guys".

Do you think Caruso could do it again now that the tape is out there? You think Nuggets would find ways to exploit that when they are better prepared for it?

However you answer, what is a fact is that a schemed defense involving multiple players is not the same as "X guarded Y".
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I'm pretty sure you told me that a prospect needs to have a 8% or higher BLK% to be able to be considered a rim protector in the NBA. Fleming had a 4.9% BLK% last year.

I swear I'm not calling you out, but it would be nice to get more clarity on what you are referring to here and where you came up with that 8% number.
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Yes, to be a legit rim protector (like the Kesslers/Livelys/Goberts/etc) I require a high %. Fleming is more of a hybrid weakside protector who has enough size to also be a primary when needed.

Fleming also had a 6.8% block rate last year, so he is close to the 8% figure. Career 5.6
 
HermanG said:
No you used one time schemed defense as an example of "how smaller guys and guard bigger guys".

Do you think Caruso could do it again now that the tape is out there? You think Nuggets would find ways to exploit that when they are better prepared for it?

However you answer, what is a fact is that a schemed defense involving multiple players is not the same as "X guarded Y".
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Do you agree or disagree with the idea that a smaller player, especially one that is exceptionally strong and athletic, can guard players that are taller than they are?
 
I'd probably have Martin a little bit lower than Sion James. Wish he was just a bit better as a shooter/steals guy. But he is a +3 indicator guy.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Do you agree or disagree with the idea that a smaller player, especially one that is exceptionally strong and athletic, can guard players that are taller than they are?
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Of course they can. We have seen a lot of guys guard Lauri pretty well despite giving up 3-4 inches on him. Which is a better example of the case in point.

Yet we do have to maintain the general assumption that height disadvantage hurts a player defensively (assuming said player doesnt have exceptional length).
 
Is Alijah Martin considered a better prospect than Will Richard? I'm assuming so because one got a combine invite and the other did not, but Richard stood out to me more when I watched Florida.
 
A NBA scout from a lottery team told Rafael Barlowe that Jeremiah Fears is hot right now.

The scout said "I honestly think his draft range is anywhere from 2 through 5. I don’t know if he is going to be around at 7 for the Pelicans."

They continued to say they know New Orleans likes him and so does Brooklyn.

"Pelicans and Nets are the two teams I could see really trying to trade up into the top five."
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Is Alijah Martin considered a better prospect than Will Richard? I'm assuming so because one got a combine invite and the other did not, but Richard stood out to me more when I watched Florida.
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Who?

Just kidding. I guess it's an eye of the beholder thing because Alijah always stood out to me, but I never really considered Richard as an NBA prospect.
 
Elizah Huge said:
A NBA scout from a lottery team told Rafael Barlowe that Jeremiah Fears is hot right now.

The scout said "I honestly think his draft range is anywhere from 2 through 5. I don’t know if he is going to be around at 7 for the Pelicans."

They continued to say they know New Orleans likes him and so does Brooklyn.

"Pelicans and Nets are the two teams I could see really trying to trade up into the top five."
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He makes sense for a lot of teams in the top 5, including us. I wouldn't mind getting him. In fact he is probably my top choice if Flagg, Harper, Tre and VJ are gone. I'm not a fan of Ace and I dont think our current team/culture will be the best way for him to start his career.
 
If Jamir Watkins from 24 was entering this draft I'd be all about him. His recent season was sort of a disappointment, but that may be because he was just in over his head and in too big of a role. In his previous season he was an elite stocks guy, great rebounder, high assists (for role), and shot nearly 50% from the line.
 
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