Game thread..Pelicans @jazz.... tank tested
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♪alt13
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Misleading. Go ahead and add the chances of us getting a worse than 4th pick to this pct. We should shoot for dead last. Even if we win tonight we will likely lose the next 7 so I say get a win tonight. I would rather we lose both against phx at the end of the month though.
Agreed. When it comes time to re-sign for next year, those players who would have been on the fence following an 0-82 season would be in a much better position if they come away from this season with a few wins. With the warm fuzzies that they'll get after beating the likes of the Pelicans and the Kings, they won't even hesitate to sign on the dotted line. "Man, I can't WAIT to come back for another year and almost beat some more teams!" And regardless of how they feel, think about how it will increase their trade value! GM's looking over resumes will be delighted to read the entry:
2013-2014 Utah Jazz - Basketball Player
Requirements: Pulse, patience. Shoot and pass ball
Major Accomplishments: Didn't lose all of our games
They will probably not brush their teeth after their first win so that they can continue to savor the taste of victory (what does beating the Pelicans taste like?). The confidence that they gain from these wins will be second-only to the confidence they would gain from actual achievement.
At his Hall of Fame acceptance speech, when asked what the turning point was in his career, Gordon Hayward will pause only very slightly before stating "those six wins in '13/'14 really served as a catalyst for my future. I was so lucky to be a part of that."
Had Doc Brown been privy to the events of 11/13/2013 and had even a basic understanding of the impact of that evening, he would have instantly destroyed the DeLorean to eliminate even the remotest possibility that McFly would find himself in a position to even slightly alter the result. No time-space continuum fabric could realistically withstand such a dilemma.
You will be able to tell your grandchildren that "I was there, watching on an illegally streamed internet feed, when the Jazz won that game. Alec Burks' heart grew three sizes that day!"
I would say that this is a "must-win", but I fear that the requisite urgency is not represented by this lackluster phrase. This may just be a "must-must-win."
Utah Jazz, my team! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our teammates and break up our contracts, but it is not this day. An hour of pelicans and shattered defensive schemes, when the pride of the organization comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, men of the Northwest division!
mellow
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Enes is asking you to step up for something bigger than the Tank.
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♪alt13
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I don't know. I think Kobe wants another ring and he has to realize that he's not going to get one this year. I can see his injury keeping him out longer than expected. Nash is out for at least 2 weeks now as well. I honestly think that the lakers are going to tank and it makes me nervous.
You also have to consider the 0% chance of getting the 5th or 6th pick that the worst team has compared to the 30.5% chance that the 3rd worst team has.
Batman
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As the sick and battered Dennis Lindsey left his family, also ill, to go with KOC to the Chicago Classic, KOC turned to him and said, "you know what Dennis, lets leave your family with something encouraging... transcendentally inspiring." What are you thinking, Kevin?" Responded Dennis. "Follow my lead", said KOC. KOC and Lindsey then stood up in the back of their contemporary carriage and turned back to the Lindsey family (all of which were watching the epic departure from the front porch) and Yelled "Hurrah!! Hurrah for Tanking!!!"
What I'm saying is, finishing in last place far from guarantees the top pick. It only happened twice since lottery rules changed in the 90s. The difference between finishing dead last and finishing with third worst record is that the former guarantees a top 4 picks, while the latter nets you a top 6 (and the odds of 3rd landing the 6th pick is only 4%, so pretty much guarantees a top 5 pick). It is a trivial difference since the draft has several superstar prospects, and we cannot know where they end up in the future.
I hope you feel less misled.
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jazzfan1971
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I want the team to go out, play their hardest and win if they can.
On the flip side, I'm very happy with each loss going in the L column.
But, I really wouldn't mind if we were without a win until Burks suited up.
On the flip side, I'm very happy with each loss going in the L column.
But, I really wouldn't mind if we were without a win until Burks suited up.
Litany
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I think it would make sense for them to do it but I don't think Kobe has it in him.
Have you seen his twitter?
It's 1225. He was the ranked the 25th best player and his team 12th. He's not built to endorse a tank. Besides a rookie doesn't help him win titles.
The way he helps win titles is taking the minimum next year and getting talented FAs
♪alt13
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There is no reason they can't have both. Plus it will be easier to lure a talented FA with a wiggins,Randle,Parker than without.
spycam1
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Bawse Dawg
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The Nuggets are trying to trade the Manimmal for Shumpert.... No amount of losses will satisfy me.
b_line
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My worry about the chance of getting the 5th pick is this: I view the draft as 1, 2, 3 being Parker, Randle and Wiggins, in no particular order. After that, do you see a surefire superstar? I see Dante Exum being very good, but not surefire like the other three, and then 5th, is there a player as good as any in the top 4? I don't really think there is. But we have a whole college season to see that.
So, in summation, Jazz need to tank the hell out of this season, and ensure a top 4 pick with their record. The other thing we need to do is hire some linebackers to play for ten day contracts when we play the warriors, and get lucky with the ping pong balls on that pick. We can have ourselves a superstar, and another all star with the GSW pick. Just count it as payback for the way Mark Jackson treated Stockton, and the way those guys immorally tanked one year. (Is what we are doing this year any better morally?)
Yup. The Jazz are top-3 in just about every suckstistic that you can imagine, and have all the tools necessary to not compete, but as colton is fond of saying: "you can't take anything for granite."
David Stern
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The tank seems to have much more enthusiastic support today after the Jabari/Wiggins showdown last night.
UGLI baby
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Math. How does that **** work?
Seriously. You can win a few games and still have the worst record in the league.