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General Mattis To Resign

Maybe because he knows if he consults with the military industrial complex he know what the answer will be. The American peace loving caring people do not want endless wars. This is precisely why Trump was elected. He is the only man who will stand up against the corrupt and put and end to it once and for all. The biggest reason why he was elected was because of the brass balls this man has and his willingness to do what is necessary. If anyone else was elected it would have been more endless wars.

It gets so old watching you morons get duped for entife lifetime by lying politicians. We finally got one who is a man of his word and now you want to cry about it.

Lmfao, you realize you’re talking to one of the posters on this site that is the most skeptical and distrustful of DC right?

But sure, act like your more enlightened than the rest of us.
**** I’ve had enough of holding my ****ing tongue.

Fine. Leave Syria. I’d support the notion. But do it in a planned out thoughtful manner.

“Yeah!!! ****’em! Wheels up in 30!” Is an extremely stupid and dangerous “plan”. If you can’t see that then I don’t know what to ****ing tell you.
 
Eh, to me this is low on the list. Russia liking an action is not my barometer. Nor should it be.
Consider why Russia (really Putin) approves of this move, and our allies in the region don't. It's more in their interest than ours, and that to me, is not sound foreign policy.
 
The exact same people bitching about this would be bitching if Trump announced he was extending our commitment in the region. We have 2,000 troops there. Withdrawing them won't lead to World War 3, especially as we have a carrier in the gulf. I mean if it is that important to Europe, they can provide the troops and let them be assigned to hot fire zones like our soldiers have been.

We need to rethink our military presence in a lot of areas. I study Russia, I lived in Russia. Russia is not remotely the threat that China is both economically and militarily. If we are extending commitments, it needs to be towards countering China. A combined Europe could handle Russia and they need to be given that opportunity. And for hell's sake, stop buying their energy if they are such an existential threat. We need to act the same with China.
 
Consider why Russia (really Putin) approves of this move, and our allies in the region don't. It's more in their interest than ours, and that to me, is not sound foreign policy.

Good heck man.

Take a step back.

Can you see yourself and all the other Russia Gaters for what it is? You dont think that the constant airing of Russian conspiracy theories is brain washing you just a little bit?

****ing Russia everything. What the hell is going on? Propaganda is is so much more effective than I could ever imagined. This **** is insane. Half this country is walking around like mindless zombies repeating Russia Russia Russia Russia everything .

Its propaganda. Its 100% political propaganda and you are taking it hook line and sinker. This **** is sad. I thought most people were smarter than this.

Turn off the tv. Look out your door. What does Russia have to do with anything? You would think they were marching up and down our streets taking over our country by how much they are being talked about.
 
Good heck man.

Take a step back.

Can you see yourself and all the other Russia Gaters for what it is? You dont think that the constant airing of Russian conspiracy theories is brain washing you just a little bit?

****ing Russia everything. What the hell is going on? Propaganda is is so much more effective than I could ever imagined. This **** is insane. Half this country is walking around like mindless zombies repeating Russia Russia Russia Russia everything .

Its propaganda. Its 100% political propaganda and you are taking it hook line and sinker. This **** is sad. I thought most people were smarter than this.

Turn off the tv. Look out your door. What does Russia have to do with anything? You would think they were marching up and down our streets taking over our country by how much they are being talked about.
What the **** are you even talking about? Our foreign policy should based around promoting American values and interests, not those of corrupt autocrats like Putin and Erdogan. Supposed conspiracy theories don't really enter into it.
 
What the **** are you even talking about? Our foreign policy should based around promoting American values and interests, not those of corrupt autocrats like Putin and Erdogan. Supposed conspiracy theories don't really enter into it.


I assume you are a Democrat/Liberal right?

You literally just said "our foreign policy should be based around promoting American values and interests". You know that is the foreign policy we have always had, and also the same policy liberals despised for years? And the same policy that has bankrupted the country?

If Bush does is its bad. If Obama does it is ok. If Trump is against it then we must do it.

I guarantee you would not have had the same take when Bush was in office.
 
What the **** are you even talking about? Our foreign policy should based around promoting American values and interests, not those of corrupt autocrats like Putin and Erdogan. Supposed conspiracy theories don't really enter into it.

And what does 2000 American troops living in Syria have to do with that?
 
And what does 2000 American troops living in Syria have to do with that?
The sudden removal of them with out any warning or forethought for the fate of our allies in Syria will cause them, and others I'm sure as well, to wonder just why it is they are aligning themselves with us in the first place.
 
Like others have said, it's not just the fact that we are leaving Syria, it's that we are doing it on a whim. It's not the kind of thing that is likely to inspire confidence in us in the future among our allies in the middle east and around the globe.


It's hard to read things like this and think yeah, this is a step in the right direction.
 
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Like others have said, it's not just the fact that we are leaving Syria, it's that we are doing it on a whim. It's not the kind of thing that is likely to inspire confidence in us in the future among our allies in the middle east and around the globe.


It's hard to read things like this and think yeah, this is a step in the right direction.


Hasn't Trump talked about getting out of wars since the very beginning of his campaigning for president?

This isnt really a shock to anyone who knows that he is a man of his word.
 
Hasn't Trump talked about getting out of wars since the very beginning of his campaigning for president?

This isnt really a shock to anyone who knows that he is a man of his word.
Lol genius take man.

"Sorry Kurds, yeah you've fought by our side countless times, but you really should have seen an out of the blue withdrawal of our support coming. Good luck with the ethnic cleansing, we're out!"
 
Lol genius take man.

"Sorry Kurds, yeah you've fought by our side countless times, but you really should have seen an out of the blue withdrawal of our support coming. Good luck with the ethnic cleansing, we're out!"

Im sure they will understand. We cant keep kicking this can down the road.

This is like kicking out your lazy roomate who cant hold down a job and pay his share. Youve been warning him that you cant afford to take care of him forever. He can see that you have been taking out 2nd mortgages and getting pay day loans to pay the bills, but he still wont make an effort to get a job and just smokes weed all day. This person is your friend, but at the same time you cant let the drowning man pull you down with him. So you just tell him he has 30 days to move out one day.

We gave the world a 30 day notice. I think its fair. Since when is 30 days not enough time to make plans?
 
Isnt it about time America bows out of babysitting the middle east and let them take care of their own problems? Its exactly what they want anyways. Anything you do is criticized and unappreciated anyways. Its not the job of the American people to solve everyone's problems. Especially since we are going broke doing it, and we havent solved anything and have only made things worse.

Well since its likely that the worlds next nuclear event will be a terrorist event and the perpetrators will likely be from that region and the victims will likely live in New York, Washington, London Paris or Berlin i would say that it is Americas problem. I could go on and on and on but why bother?
 
Im sure they will understand. We cant keep kicking this can down the road.

This is like kicking out your lazy roomate who cant hold down a job and pay his share. Youve been warning him that you cant afford to take care of him forever. He can see that you have been taking out 2nd mortgages and getting pay day loans to pay the bills, but he still wont make an effort to get a job and just smokes weed all day. This person is your friend, but at the same time you cant let the drowning man pull you down with him. So you just tell him he has 30 days to move out one day.

We gave the world a 30 day notice. I think its fair. Since when is 30 days not enough time to make plans?
I mean...
 
Putin claims the US does not have a legal right to be in Syria, without either the invitation of Syria or a UN-sanctioned action there.

I don't care. If there are people being slaughtered, a genocidal "cleansing" on either religious, political or ethnic lines, I'm in.

We could not expect the UN to be a reliable authority on human rights, or a "Legal" basis for anything. I think the UN is an abomination. What, the US is still the only nation on planet earth with elections that count? The UN has no elected officials or representatives at all.

Russia is the kind of oligarchy we would be if the Dems complete their power grab.

I think Trump's move is strategic. There was this big Bowery War planned by the world elites, which they could all watch from their pow-wows down in Thailand served by underage sex-slaves, get drunk, pass out and puke on the marble floors.... while thinning the herd of useless breeders. How much clout do our bomb-makers and fighter manufacturers need to make, anyway.

Trump just said "Deal me out." We've got all the refugees wending our way from Venezuela and half a dozen little failed socialist paradises that we can take care of.

I'd get outta Afghan too. Let China, Russia, and India get back to their ages of failed raids into those mountains. Afghan will never be anybody's little trophy.
 
Well since its likely that the worlds next nuclear event will be a terrorist event and the perpetrators will likely be from that region and the victims will likely live in New York, Washington, London Paris or Berlin i would say that it is Americas problem. I could go on and on and on but why bother?

Not sure about our newb here, bro. A little too pat to be a genuine conservative American doin' the Isolationist gig.

I'd think, however, that we have more to fear from our run-amok intelligence services than wild-eyed religious fanatics.

No. I say if we cleaned out the darkside of our own establishment we would not be anybody's target.

It's time for the principles of Locke, of the Magna Carta.... and of the genuine renaissance that propelled the West to some great accomplishments arising from the bare-boned reality of actual human liberty.

Dump your scholastic fantasies of good government done right by the right people.... the ideological mantras of progressivism. I know it will be a tough sale in the middle east, which measures "good" by all the presumptions folks can lump into "Allah", but it's no easy sale either with the religious progressives who love so much being their own damn God.

Human beings have innate rights, and deserve every right they hope for, including
a government answerable to them.

The American Revolution deserves a worldwide rebirth.

I say that, mate, as a blue-blooded descendant of King George III himself, who was a fool, maybe an imbecile.... but worst of all a dupe of the British Merchants and bankers who ran slavers to the Americas to fetch cotton, lumber and sugar for their mills, then dumped finished cloth goods on India and persuaded them to grow opium to be sold at force of arms in China. Rascals.

These were the folks who had their men installed in the colonies as "government" who tried to make the point about who is the boss of who.

nah.

We don't want Facebook paying Snopes or Wikipedia to create a new programmed knowledge base to sweep skeptics outta sight in social media, nor do we like Xi's sort of China with everybody monitored for everything they say online as the basis for sending the paddy wagons around to collect the derelicts in need of "re-education".

If there is a brave new world with a bluer sky ahead, it will come from dumping our present elites and going back to Locke.

So Trump tried to form a cabinet in an inclusive manner, bringing in folks representative of various elements of our present government, tried including "establishment" folks. It didn't work because no one really wanted to work with him.

Dunno what he can do without them. Maybe not much. But Mattis even said he deserves to have people who will support him. Mattis is merely jumping ship, expecting to be picked up by the Good Olde HMS Council of Foreign Relations.
 
Good heck man.

Take a step back.

Can you see yourself and all the other Russia Gaters for what it is? You dont think that the constant airing of Russian conspiracy theories is brain washing you just a little bit?

****ing Russia everything. What the hell is going on? Propaganda is is so much more effective than I could ever imagined. This **** is insane. Half this country is walking around like mindless zombies repeating Russia Russia Russia Russia everything .

Its propaganda. Its 100% political propaganda and you are taking it hook line and sinker. This **** is sad. I thought most people were smarter than this.

Turn off the tv. Look out your door. What does Russia have to do with anything? You would think they were marching up and down our streets taking over our country by how much they are being talked about.

I think you are overreacting. In my day to day life I literally never hear anyone ever talk about russia. I never ever think about russia.

You should try turning off the internet and tv, look out your door..... the propaganda is effecting you way too much i think.
 
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