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Gordon Hayward: Pull Up/Drive Weekly Update

green said:
After watching last night's game, and Hayward come into the game down 4, then watching Boston go on a huge run, where Hayward does not attempt a shot until after six minutes have passed and we are down big, I'm not giving him Love or George money.

That being said, it was one game, and there is a looong season ahead of us.
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So, Gordon is responsible for every lead or lost lead or getting further behind. And I thought this was a team game. I guess that his 28 points don't count in the jazz total? Does Miami ever lose a lead or fall further behind when Lebron is in?

Hayward had a great game and you are going to criticize him?
 
GVC said:
Gordo's been an absolute beast on pull ups through the first 2 games this week. 12-15 from 2 and 1-2 from 3 (per NBA.com's player tracking stats).
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It's almost like he got wind of this thread or something.
 
zman1527 said:
So, Gordon is responsible for every lead or lost lead or getting further behind. And I thought this was a team game. I guess that his 28 points don't count in the jazz total? Does Miami ever lose a lead or fall further behind when Lebron is in?

Hayward had a great game and you are going to criticize him?
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Hayward had a great game AFTER the Jazz were down 20+ points.
 
In the Boston game, it was the first time all season where Hayward looked assertive in the 4th quarter. Hopefully it can be the start of a permanent facet of his game.
 
zman1527 said:
Hayward had a great game and you are going to criticize him?
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Of course he is. After telling everyone that Hayward < CJ, he has to try and come up with anything to prevent justification against his claim.
 
JazzSpazz said:
I say this under the assumption he will continue on at a rate somewhere in the ballpark of the last 2 games.
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Highly unlikely. Hayward has provided perennial all-star production the last two games (25, 7 and 4.5 on .556/.400/.889 creating a lot of his own shots). I just hope his future play is more like the last 2 games than the first 3.
 
dalamon said:
Of course he is. After telling everyone that Hayward < CJ, he has to try and come up with anything to prevent justification against his claim.
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lol. Holy crap. This is hilarious. Please show me where I said CJ was better than Hayward. Please do.
 
green said:
Hayward had a great game AFTER the Jazz were down 20+ points.
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Isn't this sort of a good thing, he helped the team almost come back and win from 20+ down. Would you rather have had him disappear and play bad down 20+. He kept fighting.
 
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Doublea said:
Isn't this sort of a good thing, he helped the team almost come back and win from 20+ down. Would you rather have had him disappear and play good down 20+. He kept fighting.
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That is a good thing. But I'd also like to see him take control like he did in the 4th against Boston when we're up a few points or tied. A performance like that would've helped in the Thunder/Suns/Rockets games...
 
Doublea said:
Isn't this sort of a good thing, he helped the team almost come back and win from 20+ down. Would you rather have had him disappear and play bad down 20+. He kept fighting.
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Teams do tend to let up a bit once they get a 20+ point lead. Hard to asses how good someone is by looking at how they play during a blowout loss late in the game.
 
Gameface said:
Teams do tend to let up a bit once they get a 20+ point lead. Hard to asses how good someone is by looking at how they play during a blowout loss late in the game.
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Very true, I didn't notice if Boston had their starters still in though. The main part is that Hayward still tried, he fought till the end.
 
Gameface said:
Teams do tend to let up a bit once they get a 20+ point lead. Hard to asses how good someone is by looking at how they play during a blowout loss late in the game.
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Against one of the worst teams in the NBA.
 
Week 2 update (OP updated):


Week 2

Games: 4

Drives: 40
Gordo Points on Drives: 25
Team Points on Drives: 51
Team Points per Drive: 1.275

2-pt Pull Ups: 14-24 (.583)
3-pt Pull Ups: 1-3 (.333)
Points per Pull Up: 1.148


Total (through 11/9/13)

Games: 7

Drives: 51
Gordo Points on Drives: 27 (.478 FG%)
Team Points on Drives: 60
Team Points per Drive: 1.176

2-pt Pull Ups: 19-44 (.432)
3-pt Pull Ups: 2-8 (.250)
Points per Pull Up: 0.846


​Ranks (through 11/9/13)

8th in Total Drives (Monta Ellis, 80)
12th in Drives per Game (among 53 players with 25+ Total Drives; Monta Ellis, 11.4)
17th in FG% on Drives (among 53 players with 25+ Total Drives; Evan Turner, .731)
14th in Team Points per Drive (among 53 players with 25+ Total Drives; Kyle Lowry, 1.595)

18th in Total Pull Ups per game (Steph Curry, 13.7)
27th in Points per Pull Up (among 49 players averaging 5+ Pull Ups per Game with a minimum of 3 games played; Tony Parker, 1.156)


Gordo came on strong this week (statistically), despite the team's poor play.
 
GVC said:
Week 2 update (OP updated):


Week 2

Games: 4

Drives: 40
Gordo Points on Drives: 25
Team Points on Drives: 51
Team Points per Drive: 1.275

2-pt Pull Ups: 14-24 (.583)
3-pt Pull Ups: 1-3 (.333)
Points per Pull Up: 1.148


Total (through 11/9/13)

Games: 7

Drives: 51
Gordo Points on Drives: 27 (.478 FG%)
Team Points on Drives: 60
Team Points per Drive: 1.176

2-pt Pull Ups: 19-44 (.432)
3-pt Pull Ups: 2-8 (.250)
Points per Pull Up: 0.846


​Ranks (through 11/9/13)

8th in Total Drives (Monta Ellis, 80)
12th in Drives per Game (among 53 players with 25+ Total Drives; Monta Ellis, 11.4)
17th in FG% on Drives (among 53 players with 25+ Total Drives; Evan Turner, .731)
14th in Team Points per Drive (among 53 players with 25+ Total Drives; Kyle Lowry, 1.595)

18th in Total Pull Ups per game (Steph Curry, 13.7)
27th in Points per Pull Up (among 49 players averaging 5+ Pull Ups per Game with a minimum of 3 games played; Tony Parker, 1.156)


Gordo came on strong this week (statistically), despite the team's poor play.
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Gordon is ballin!
 
ijazz said:
Way too small of a sample....

Deron Williams is 0 for 10 on pull jumpers

Derrick Rose is 1 for 16 on pull up jumpers


So Hayward better than Rose & Dwill ? :)
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Deron Williams is starting this year off BAD. He's playing basically like he just blew candles out on his 35th birthday.
 
green said:
lol. Holy crap. This is hilarious. Please show me where I said CJ was better than Hayward. Please do.
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CJ has a better PER than Hayward so far this season - 23.83 vs 20.28. In fact CJ is 1st among shooting guards so far this season.
 
The Fresh Prince said:
Deron Williams is starting this year off BAD. He's playing basically like he just blew candles out on his 35th birthday.
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Deron hasn't really done all that great since he left the Jazz anyway.
 
LogGrad98 said:
CJ has a better PER than Hayward so far this season - 23.83 vs 20.28. In fact CJ is 1st among shooting guards so far this season.
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I did bring that up. I said that so far this year, CJ is playing better. I said that I would not give Hayward over 10 million. I also said that if my options were CJ at 4 per or Hayward at 12 per, I'd take CJ.

Dala interpreted that to mean that I think CJ is better than Hayward.
 
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