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Hayward & Jazz - not close to agreement (Hayward leaving 4/40 on the table)

I think he would accept Favors deal.

From leaked reports, Jazz low balled him with 4/40

Don't you think the Jazz would have given him $2m more just to lock him up though?


I think he's holding out for somewhere between Favors' deal and Paul George's deal.
 
Watched Haywards interview at practice.

Maybe I am reading too much into it, but his body language looked like he had just been told "No extension for you"

I hope I am wrong, but my total guess is no deal.

He looked a bit nervous to me.

I felt bad when he recieved the extention question and responded like:"ehehehe same story..."
 
Don't you think the Jazz would have given him $2m more just to lock him up though?


I think he's holding out for somewhere between Favors' deal and Paul George's deal.

He asked for 4/52million, and the Jazz offered 4/40. He is holding out to get closer to that 52 mil. He knows that he is not getting Paul George money.
 
Low-balled? That's a fantastic offer for Gordo's production/skillset.

I don't like 4/40 even if it is descending. That's a team killing contract for a 4th option. I'd rather give him a three year max extension and trade the final year off if necessary to get above the salary cap. 10 is too low for impact trading and too high for filler. But the Millers aren't the Buss's and can't do stupid **** like that.
 
Regarding the Thunder and Harden, I think their front office probably decided that they didn't want to tie all their cap up with perimeter players and that Harden and Westbrook didn't complement each other very well. Maybe it wasn't a smart move on their part, but I think they were trying to make a strategic decision to help the team overall. In retrospect, they should have amnestied Perkins, since he wasn't that difficult to replace, and they should have held on to Harden as an asset whose value wasn't likely to decline.
 
Regarding the Thunder and Harden, I think their front office probably decided that they didn't want to tie all their cap up with perimeter players and that Harden and Westbrook didn't complement each other very well. Maybe it wasn't a smart move on their part, but I think they were trying to make a strategic decision to help the team overall. In retrospect, they should have amnestied Perkins, since he wasn't that difficult to replace, and they should have held on to Harden as an asset whose value wasn't likely to decline.

Justin Holiday was as good as Too Big Yo.
 
I disagree with the notion that Gordon's ceiling is a fourth option. He can be a GOOD third option on a GOOD/CONTENDING team. I'd be just fine with him at 4/40...too bad that doesn't appear to jive with his camp.
 
I wish I could be a fly on the wall in these discussions so that I could hear first-hand if his agent is using monochromatic Al-fense against the FO. In other words, is he trying to use the wasted year as leverage?
Is he saying, Look, dudes, my guy was pretty great DESPITE....So, pay him?

From a certain perspective, I would sorta love that to be true.
 
Sorry... I'm on my phone... and I'm not being very clear.

The argument that he's worth more that 4/40 HAS TO INCLUDE an argument that he's more that just a good spot-up shooter. Well, are they making the argument that he is and always has been more that this, but that Al-fense kept him in this role? It'd be interesting to know.
 
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