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Ideal Lineup (Based on everything up to now)
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Oh, come on... *someone's* got to give me rep for this!
Sure.
Oh, dang, as I was writing this up, I just realized I did it wrong--I left out the third term below. The correct answer is 390 lineups if Evans can play SF or PF, but not SG or C:
#lineups with Evans as SF = (3 choose 1) * (5 choose 1 (because one of the wing slots is taken) )* (4 choose 2 (because only 4 "bigs" left) ) = 90
#lineups with Evans as PF = (3 choose 1) * (5 choose 2) * (4 choose 1 (because one of the big slots is taken, and only 4 bigs left) ) = 120
#lineups without Evans = (3 choose 1) * (5 choose 2) * (4 choose 2) = 180
total #lineups = sum of the three terms = 390.
Guitaro
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I'm not too worried about stats at this point. I'm looking for fearless aggressors who have the talent to go along with it. Burks just makes things happen. He's a SG who isn't afraid to shoot. He isn't afraid to attack their defense. He's usually always moving and providing energy. The 15 points in like 10 minutes just shows how much of a pace change he was once he got in the game. The Jazz were playing slow and uninspired until he came in. Doesn't matter if it's garbage minutes or not.
Guitaro
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I actually agree with Burks at PG. However, with the 3 veteran PG's we already have, it's not going to happen. We would have to make a trade first to open up the minutes for him. Although, I suspect either later in the year or perhaps maybe next year, he'll be getting more PG minutes.
As for CJ, I can go either way with him. We don't have many consistent shooters on this team anymore. Believe it or not, CJ is actually one of our best shooters on the roster. It'll be hard for the Jazz to trade him unless they bring back a shooter somehow.
Harris would make a good backup PG, to change the pace and style, but I'm afraid his lack of intensity and size of contract make him a tougher option to keep. His contract will make him hard to move, too. I hope, with enough criticism from the fans, that he will be motivated to focus and show us why we traded for him; same with the other Jazz players.
EDIT: Actually, during the Denver game, I did notice that Burks initiated the offense a couple times. I also noticed guys were giving him the ball to bring it up the court until Tinsley came back to get it from Burks. This adds to why I like Tinsley. His ego doesn't seem to care who brings the ball up as long as the offense is working. He just plays and works well with Burks. PG position is just so hard to learn so early. That's why I say use him at SG for now.
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Guitaro
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The only reason Tinsley isn't starting is because he wasn't here last year and he missed part of training camp because of the flu. His background isn't as big a deal; especially if his play on the court helps people forget.
Hayward is a smart player. Sometimes, smart players can over-think the game and psyche themselves out. This is only his second year. I think by coming off the bench, he'll see a little better how teams adjust to the Jazz and what defense they're playing, etc. Also, starting puts more pressure on guys to perform. He's not quite ready for that yet. Although, Howard is so new with the team that he's not quite ready yet either. However, his experience in the league gives him a big advantage. Maybe since Corbin moved Favors to the bench and Millsap to the starting lineup, that guys will step up their games a bit more--from fear.
Guitaro
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It's one of those man-child situations. Although, he's pretty unique. Yes, he's been in the league for several years. However, he's still a big kid in the head. Guys like him take much longer to develop a killer instinct. Some guys have it from the start (Kobe, Deron, etc). That's the real problem with CJ. It's not that he's old or lacks the talent. CJ just lacks that mature killer instinct. You'll notice when he does have it. He usually has a great game that day. That's really all it boils down to.
Killer instinct = Great focus + never giving up = Elite intensity.
Guitaro
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Wow! That's impressive! Is that from statistics class? Where does one learn such a formula?
Wow! That's impressive! Is that from statistics class? Where does one learn such a formula?
The "a choose b" formula is well known, I think I learned it in high school. My 10th grade daughter certainly knows it, at any rate. The "a choose b" formula tells you if you have a different things, how many different groups of size b you can make. So it's clear that there are, for example, 10 different wing combinations that can be made with 5 different guys playing the two positions (5 choose 2).
Beyond that, it's just figuring out the right way to think of things. In this case, I realized that if there are 3 different PGs, and each PG can work with 10 different wing lineups, then there are 30 PG-wing combinations. And each of those 30 different PG-wing combinations can work with 10 different big combinations, so there must be 300 total different lineups.
So, while it's true I have had a lot of higher math (B.S. degrees in both physics and math, followed by M.S. and Ph.D. degrees in Physics), the hard thing for this particular calculation was just figuring out what needed to be done.
HeavenHarris
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If Harris doesn't belong in your lineup, then you are on crack.
jazzyapma
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It's interesting to see education system differences. Permutation and combination are thought in 6th (simpler) and 8th (complex) grade math classes in Turkey.
BluesRocker
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Favors and Millsap need to be starting for sure