Israel-Hamas War

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Gripping segment on 60 Minutes Sunday evening.

Retired IDF major general, wife race to rescue family at Israeli kibbutz during Hamas attack

As Hamas attacked, grandparents raced to a kibbutz to save family members. The grandfather, a retired IDF major general, shares the harrowing rescue story.

www.cbsnews.com

 

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View: https://www.reddit.com/r/list_palestine/comments/l43xgk/megalist_israels_crimes_controversies_full/


A sourced list of the hundreds of atrocities and massacres perpetrated by the terrorist state of Israel against the Palestinian people.

And the chaos continues.

 

[Fosto]

I see no mention of the hospital that was bombed, killing hundreds of civilians? Maybe if Palestinians held a sappy *** music concert about peace we can get some disingenuous teary eyed condemnations?

 

[Sardines]

I see no mention of the hospital that was bombed, killing hundreds of civilians? Maybe if Palestinians held a sappy *** music concert about peace we can get some disingenuous teary eyed condemnations?

That and some reports that Palestinian civilians taking the escape route instructed to them by Israel were bombed.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I see no mention of the hospital that was bombed, killing hundreds of civilians?

Are you talking about the hospital that was bombed by Palestinian Islamic Jihad on accident because they don't know how to make rockets that fly farther than a thousand yards?


View: https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1714377828131553446

 

[One Brow]

I see no mention of the hospital that was bombed, killing hundreds of civilians? Maybe if Palestinians held a sappy *** music concert about peace we can get some disingenuous teary eyed condemnations?

Last I heard, we weren't sure if it was an Israeli bomb or a misfired Hamas rocket.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

That and some reports that Palestinian civilians taking the escape route instructed to them by Israel were bombed.

Yes. It was a car bomb on the evacuation route.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzoB8FC4qz0

 

[JazzGal]

Whomever is responsible, it is reprehensible and terrible. These poor people do not deserve this.

 

[Sardines]

Yes. It was a car bomb on the evacuation route.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzoB8FC4qz0

Is it reasonable to assume the Hamas planted the car bomb?

This is just horrible.

 

[Fosto]

Last I heard, we weren't sure if it was an Israeli bomb or a misfired Hamas rocket.

When I made the post, both the IDF and Israel's "digital spokesman" had taken responsibility and bragged about it on Twitter. They deleted their Tweets, and now are saying they're not responsible. There was no way for me to know they'd change their story.

 

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I don’t know who hit the hospital. Showing reactions by those blaming Israel.


View: https://twitter.com/Sachin12306395/status/1714478657945894998


View: https://twitter.com/CallaWalsh/status/1714439642294960223

 

[Douchebag K]

chicken, egg, chicken, egg On and on forever

the poor kids

 

[str8line]

Maybe Hamas bombing their own hospital to cause outrage? Or one of their own rockets by accident. I don't think Israel are dumb enough to take out a hospital but backlash over disproportionate response was inevitable and now Israel are really in a bad place. We need to be careful not to get sucked into their mistake.

 

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The IDF is claiming it was not Hamas, but Islamic Jihad, another Palestinian group, that launched the rocket. There are videos here that are being used to support Israel’s claims. The last video shows the blast, according to Palestinian media. To me, that last video doesn’t sound like shrapnel hitting the hospital, but anyway, several clips….

IDF: Military intercepted communications indicating Islamic Jihad fired hospital rocket

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www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Red]

I have come across tweets from Palestinians showing footage from 2022, claiming it shows the hospital strike, so like everything else, have to be careful interpreting all the conflicting claims and alleged footage. With that in mind, this is interesting. If it’s real…


View: https://twitter.com/QuantumFlux36/status/1714569442095771794

 

[fishonjazz]

Thought this article was a pretty good read: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...1&cvid=d660ea447e8249de9b8067700bb321c8&ei=43

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Is it reasonable to assume the Hamas planted the car bomb?

It could have been Hamas. It could have been Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The footage doesn't definitively prove it wasn't the IDF. It could have been some random creator in Gaza wanting to get something on camera. I don't think we should assume anything other than the footage will be seen by everyone as proof their side is the righteous side and the other side is evil.

 

[fishonjazz]

It could have been Hamas. It could have been Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The footage doesn't definitively prove it wasn't the IDF. It could have been some random creator in Gaza wanting to get something on camera. I don't think we should assume anything other than the footage will be seen by everyone as proof their side is the righteous side and the other side is evil.

This

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Maybe Hamas bombing their own hospital to cause outrage? Or one of their own rockets by accident. I don't think Israel are dumb enough to take out a hospital but backlash over disproportionate response was inevitable and now Israel are really in a bad place. We need to be careful not to get sucked into their mistake.

The missile was definitely part of a barrage of missiles fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad. That part is not in question and has been confirmed by the Pentagon. It also appears that someone was using the hospital as a place to store explosive weapons which were set off by the falling Palestinian Islamic Jihad missile. That said, there is a part of the narrative that is being ignored by both sides as they tell the story and Israel may not be entirely blameless.

Most of the footage is conveniently zoomed to crop out the top of the frame. You see the flash of the rocket motors as the missiles were launched and you see the explosion at the hospital, but nearly all of the footage doesn't show the small pop of light in the air just before the explosion at the hospital. That could be the rocket malfunctioning or it could be the rocket being intercepted by iron dome. I'm thinking Palestinian Islamic Jihad fired off these rockets, The iron dome defense system intercepted at least one of them while still over Gaza, and the remnants of the intercepted rocket fell on a hospital Hamas was using as an ammo dump.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

The missile was definitely part of a barrage of missiles fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad. That part is not in question and has been confirmed by the Pentagon. It also appears that someone was using the hospital as a place to store explosive weapons which were set off by the falling Palestinian Islamic Jihad missile. That said, there is a part of the narrative that is being ignored by both sides as they tell the story and Israel may not be entirely blameless.

Most of the footage is conveniently zoomed to crop out the top of the frame. You see the flash of the rocket motors as the missiles were launched and you see the explosion at the hospital, but nearly all of the footage doesn't show the small pop of light in the air just before the explosion at the hospital. That could be the rocket malfunctioning or it could be the rocket being intercepted by iron dome. I'm thinking Palestinian Islamic Jihad fired off these rockets, The iron dome defense system intercepted at least one of them while still over Gaza, and the remnants of the intercepted rocket fell on a hospital Hamas was using as an ammo dump.

Here is the footage that causes me to believe this was a Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that was intercepted by iron dome.


View: https://twitter.com/yousuf_tw/status/1714367757968384106