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Red said:
I know. Hilarious, isn’t it?

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American Fascism: It Has Happened Here | Sarah Churchwell

“When Americans think of dictators they always think of some foreign model,” wrote the anti-fascist journalist Dorothy Thompson in the mid-1930s, but an American dictator would be “one of the boys, and he will stand for everything traditionally American.” And the American people, Thompson added...
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Pardon me for saying but you sound kinda unhinged with all this facism stuff. Seriously.
 
One Brow said:
Thank you for confirming my point.
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You don’t think that Hamas wouldn’t use an Air Force to attempt to kil as many Jews as they could ?? How many times do they have to say that what they want is to kill as many Jews as they can as often as they can again and again. They have still been saying that again and again since Oct 7. Would you just sit back and allow the importing of as much equipment and supplies that you know would be used to attack your civilians if you were Israel ?

You have the beautiful quality of such a high level of compassion but I think you’re also naive. Hamas and a very good portion of their ilk have zero interest in peacefully coexisting with Israel and the only solution they’re interested in is complete removal and eradication of the Jews
 
Douchebag K said:
You don’t think that Hamas wouldn’t use an Air Force to attempt to kil as many Jews as they could ??
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That's irrelevant to the point I was making.

Douchebag K said:
Hamas and a very good portion of their ilk have zero interest in peacefully coexisting with Israel and the only solution they’re interested in is complete removal and eradication of the Jews
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Of course. It's a common response the world over to hate the oppressor.
 
One Brow said:
That's irrelevant to the point I was making.


Of course. It's a common response the world over to hate the oppressor.
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Seeing this in terms of the oppressor / oppressed is incredibly myopic and simplistic and wrong. It’s ridiculous to think Israel has been blockading Gaza for the fun of it just because they’re the oppressor.
You’re diminishing the responsibility of Hamas for their behaviour. They’re not just nice people who’ve had a hard time and are lashing back.
 
Douchebag K said:
Seeing this in terms of the oppressor / oppressed is incredibly myopic and simplistic and wrong. It’s ridiculous to think Israel has been blockading Gaza for the fun of it just because they’re the oppressor.
You’re diminishing the responsibility of Hamas for their behaviour. They’re not just nice people who’ve had a hard time and are lashing back.
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Are the majority of Gazans in Hamas? Seeing this in terms of "Israel has to keeps the Gazans down" is also myopic, simplistic, and wrong.
 
In depth.

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Where Was the Israeli Military?

Far beneath the Israeli military headquarters in Tel Aviv, in a bunker known as The Pit, commanders were trying to
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“The full reasons behind the military’s slow response may take months to understand. The government has promised an inquiry. But a New York Times investigation found that Israel’s military was undermanned, out of position and so poorly organized that soldiers communicated in impromptu WhatsApp groups and relied on social media posts for targeting information. Commandos rushed into battle armed only for brief combat. Helicopter pilots were ordered to look to news reports and Telegram channels to choose targets.

And perhaps most damning: The Israel Defense Forces did not even have a plan to respond to a large-scale Hamas attack on Israeli soil, according to current and former soldiers and officers. If such a plan existed on a shelf somewhere, the soldiers said, no one had trained on it and nobody followed it. The soldiers that day made it up as they went along”.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
Hey Red, here's a fun thought experiment for you:
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Yes Red! It sounds super fun! Did you read it? They have over 2,900 comrades already. They aren't the 'workers of the world unite' type of socialist, but instead they want the Palestinians to have a nation. They are a Nationalist-Socialist group. Admittedly that label is a bit clunky but if you join then maybe you can propose they use a shorter portmanteau to identify themselves!
 
Red said:
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Where Was the Israeli Military?

Far beneath the Israeli military headquarters in Tel Aviv, in a bunker known as The Pit, commanders were trying to
dnyuz.com

“The full reasons behind the military’s slow response may take months to understand. The government has promised an inquiry. But a New York Times investigation found that Israel’s military was undermanned, out of position and so poorly organized that soldiers communicated in impromptu WhatsApp groups and relied on social media posts for targeting information. Commandos rushed into battle armed only for brief combat. Helicopter pilots were ordered to look to news reports and Telegram channels to choose targets.

And perhaps most damning: The Israel Defense Forces did not even have a plan to respond to a large-scale Hamas attack on Israeli soil, according to current and former soldiers and officers. If such a plan existed on a shelf somewhere, the soldiers said, no one had trained on it and nobody followed it. The soldiers that day made it up as they went along”.
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so they had it coming ??
 
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One Brow said:
Are the majority of Gazans in Hamas? Seeing this in terms of "Israel has to keeps the Gazans down" is also myopic, simplistic, and wrong.
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The Gazans sadly are pawns by the choice of their stupid leadership. Hamas are primarily responsible for the majority of the “keeping down” of their people. Imagine what life for Gazans would be like if their elected body had spent the last 20 years using all that international aid on you know, infrastructure, enterprise, etc instead of weapons of assault and terror. And be dedicated to protecting civilians instead of continuously and deliberately placing them in harms way ??

Israel do a great many things wrong but seriously what would you do if you were them ?? Just sit back and accept a steady flow of people and arms that get used to perpetually attack your civilians in the name of eradicating you ??
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Yes Red! It sounds super fun! Did you read it?
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What does it matter to you what I read, what I believe? You really need to try harder to stay out of my business. Stop being concerned with anyone other than yourself.
if you need to have explained to you why a human being would be disgusted by what Netanyahu is doing, what can I say to you, other than you do you, and leave me the hell out of it…..
 
Red said:
What does it matter to you what I read, what I believe?
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Despite your name being in it, the comment wasn't actually directed at you. Humor that you have to explain is always the best, but I was making fun of Unborn Gore trying to get you into his Nazi club. The comment I was responding to was Unborn Gore's, but if being a Nationalist-Socialist resonates with you then by all means take Unborn Gore up on his offer to join the Nazi group. I will make fun of you for joining because that ideology doesn't have the best image after the whole killing of 6 million Jews thing but Unborn Gore exists so they are around and they say they are 2,900 strong.
 
Okay @Red, I have a real question for you. I legit don't know the answer to this one.

The color scheme of red, white, and black feature prominently in Nazi iconography. Notice Unborn Gore's invite to the Nazi club used that color palate. Is there a significance to the use of red, white, and black? Do the new Nazis use red, white, and black because the old Nazis did and that is as deep as it goes? Or do the red, white, and black signify something to Nazis? I know you've said you studied this stuff long ago and might know the answer.
 
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