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McNuggets at the Jazz - Wednesday, October 18th - 7 PM

candrew said:
According to ESPN the attendance was 17k+ l know max is/was 19,911. Did it change with the remodel?
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I don't know if attendance is the same as having all the tickets sold. Season ticket holders may not be able to fill their seats on a Wed. night. Plus many businesses own tickets and may not be passionate about the team or making it to every game, it's something they use as a reward internally or to give to clients.
 
I read that they removed about 1200 seats.
 
franklin said:
Only 2000 empty? That's surprising.

Why would we go see a team that biffed a rebuild, is going to be on the playoff bubble, and is on the brink of another tankbuild?
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Man, **** this garbage.

What the Jazz are doing flies in the face of championship-or-bust team-building, and through that lens and on paper, what the Jazz are doing is stupid. But you know what else is stupid? SPORTS. Maybe what's purer than the singular pursuit of a championship is the singular pursuit of ****ing competing, and the Jazz are going to scrap for every W more than every other team. So **** your sentiment, and **** the conventional wisdom, I'll take 45 exhilarating wins and pride in my home team over a team that wouldn't be winning more than an additional handful of games with some guys collecting checks and/or can't wait to leave. Besides, this team does better drafting later in the draft anyway.

So you can either kick back and enjoy this team or you can **** off.
 
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fishonjazz said:
I read that they removed about 1200 seats.
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That makes me want to go to a game now. I hope that means a little more space. The previous seats were a little tight if you aren't a small person.
 
dalamon said:
There was a ton of good **** to see in this game


- Favors is basically back to where he was during his fringe all-star year
- Rudy hasn't lost a step since last year
- Rubio pushing the pace for this squad
- Sefalosha and Udoh with incredible defensive performances
- Mitchell showing that he's absolutely ready to play against grown men, got to the cup consistently
- Burks with one of the best stretches of minutes in his entire career
- Ingles running more P&Rs than almost anyone on this team, and I doubt he had a single turnover (not to mention his threes in the second that kept us from being blown out)
- Joe Johnson still being Joe Jesus

Really, the only empty performance was from Rodney Hood nearly ****ting himself. Lots of positves in this game otherwise, especially in that second half. Ain't no one ****ing with our bench this year. We want Golden State.
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If we play to our potential and the injury bug stays away we'll be asking ourselves what if Dante were healthy and played to his potential too. Then we'd be wondering which teams we could shock in the playoffs.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Man, **** this garbage.

What the Jazz are doing flies in the face of championship-or-bust team-building, and through that lens and on paper, what the Jazz are doing is stupid. But you know what else is stupid? SPORTS. Maybe what's purer than the singular pursuit of a championship is the singular pursuit of ****ing competing, and the Jazz are going to scrap for every W more than every other team. So **** your sentiment, and **** the convention wisdom, I'll take 45 exhilarating wins and pride in my home team over a team that wouldn't be winning more than an additional handful of games with some guys collecting checks and/or can't wait to leave.

Sit back and enjoy this team or suck a soda off a cliff.
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Says the guy who bitched endlessly about Corbin's use of Al Jefferson and Randy Foye in the winning-est fashion imaginable for that team. Kind of funny how everyone has flip flopped after watching years of losing basketball.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Man, **** this garbage.

What the Jazz are doing flies in the face of championship-or-bust team-building, and through that lens and on paper, what the Jazz are doing is stupid. But you know what else is stupid? SPORTS. Maybe what's purer than the singular pursuit of a championship is the singular pursuit of ****ing competing, and the Jazz are going to scrap for every W more than every other team. So **** your sentiment, and **** the conventional wisdom, I'll take 45 exhilarating wins and pride in my home team over a team that wouldn't be winning more than an additional handful of games with some guys collecting checks and/or can't wait to leave. Besides, this team does better drafting later in the draft anyway.

So you can either kick back and enjoy this team or you can **** off.
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mate everything he says is trolling. Don't take him seriously.
 
franklin said:
Says the guy who bitched endlessly about Corbin's use of Al Jefferson and Randy Foye in the winning-est fashion imaginable for that team. Kind of funny how everyone has flip flopped after watching years of losing basketball.
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Which years of losing basketball are you referring to?

130-117 (52.6%) under Snyder.
112-146 (43.4%) under Crobain.
 
LogGrad98 said:
That makes me want to go to a game now. I hope that means a little more space. The previous seats were a little tight if you aren't a small person.
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There is like 2 inches more space per seat I believe.

I sat pretty high up in the nosebleeds and I have to say, the comfort of the seats (more space but mainly the padding. New style of drink holders too I believe) made a huge difference.

In the past I would never buy nosebleeds (unless it's for the playoffs) but I have changed my tune on that.
I had so much fun. And it was only a preseason game.
 
fishonjazz said:
There is like 2 inches more space per seat I believe.

I sat pretty high up in the nosebleeds and I have to say, the comfort of the seats (more space but mainly the padding. New style of drink holders too I believe) made a huge difference.

In the past I would never buy nosebleeds (unless it's for the playoffs) but I have changed my tune on that.
I had so much fun. And it was only a preseason game.
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Same. With the big screens and the way you can see the overall game from above it's definitely worth it, and I used to be a good seat, lower bowl snob.
 
franklin said:
Says the guy who bitched endlessly about Corbin's use of Al Jefferson and Randy Foye in the winning-est fashion imaginable for that team. Kind of funny how everyone has flip flopped after watching years of losing basketball.
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That team didn't scrap. They weren't fun to watch. It was one bad era of basketball sitting on top of what looked like could be a better one. There was nothing exhilarating about how they played or where anything was going. There wasn't anything worth saving (except Millsap).

This team scraps. They're fun to watch. They seem to like each other and play for each other. They seem like they want to be here. And this is it. They need to blow it up or they need to double down, there's no lame-duckedness to it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
That team didn't scrap. They weren't fun to watch. It was one bad era of basketball sitting on top of what looked like could be a better one. There was nothing exhilarating about how they played or where anything was going. There wasn't anything worth saving (except Millsap).

This team scraps. They're fun to watch. They seem to like each other and play for each other. They seem like they want to be here. And this is it. They need to blow it up or they need to double down, there's no lame-duckedness to it.
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I'll give you that angle all day every day.

They could have built a scrappy team then too, but fans and the F.O. all wanted playoffs just like they want them now. Boozer jumped ship, Memo was a dead man walking, and D-Will had one foot out the door. What did fans beg for? Al Jefferson, Devin Harris + Earl Watson followed by Mo Williams, and a playoff berth. Then they begged for a tank. Then the tank sucked *** and this team is going to find itself in the ****ter, with an unhappy Rudy Gobert contract situation.
 
franklin said:
I'll give you that angle all day every day.

They could have built a scrappy team then too, but fans and the F.O. all wanted playoffs just like they want them now. Boozer jumped ship, Memo was a dead man walking, and D-Will had one foot out the door. What did fans beg for? Al Jefferson, Devin Harris + Earl Watson followed by Mo Williams, and a playoff berth. Then they begged for a tank. Then the tank sucked *** and this team is going to find itself in the ****ter, with an unhappy Rudy Gobert contract situation.
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Or maybe if they ace every move they can end up with some players to really build around. Hell, The Jazz's brightest hopes are a mid and late first rounder that they traded up for while Favors' time has been kind of disappointing, Kanter was a waste, Burke a failure, and Exum has become an afterthought. The Jazz didn't get any opportunities that panned out in the upper-echelons of the draft. Millsap and Carroll could've stayed. Maybe the lesson with this organization is that they should just never quit and outwork everyone else in scouting, development, and being on the phones. I really don't see any other way out unless the Jazz trade Gobert which frankly is a totally unconscionable and unpalatable scenario.

This is it. For better or for worse.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Or maybe if they ace every move they can end up with some players to really build around. Hell, The Jazz's brightest hopes are a mid and late first rounder that they traded up for while Favors' time has been kind of disappointing, Kanter was a waste, Burke a failure, and Exum has become an afterthought. The Jazz didn't get any opportunities that panned out in the upper-echelons of the draft. Millsap and Carroll could've stayed. Maybe the lesson with this organization is that they should just never quit and outwork everyone else in scouting, development, and being on the phones. I really don't see any other way out unless the Jazz trade Gobert which frankly is a totally unconscionable and unpalatable scenario.

This is it. For better or for worse.
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Why do you think I have been arguing for years that teams should trade those wasteful high lotto picks for better assets or multiple mid-draft range gambles instead of just one? The Jazz need to think outside the box instead of being the follower team building strategists they have been for the last 20 years. They need to invent a new way of improving.
 
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