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So easily predictable. More right wing violence provoked by irresponsible and unhinged propaganda and conspiracy spewed by top leaders of the GOP. This rhetoric spewed everyday by Republicans on Fox News and in DC is just so toxic. What can be done to turn down the heat? Is there a line that will be crossed that will finally end this irresponsible rhetoric? I thought Jan 6 might be a wake up call yet inflammatory rhetoric on tv, social media, and political parties has only continued to become more extreme, resulting in very real violence.

Last year, David DePape posted links on his Facebook page to multiple videos produced by My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell falsely alleging that the 2020 election was stolen. Other posts included transphobic images and linked to websites claiming Covid vaccines were deadly. “The death rates being promoted are what ever ‘THEY’ want to be promoted as the death rate,” one post read.
DePape also posted links to YouTube videos with titles like “Democrat FARCE Commission to Investigate January 6th Capitol Riot COLLAPSES in Congress!!!” and “Global Elites Plan To Take Control Of YOUR Money! (Revealed)”

Two days after former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of killing George Floyd, DePape wrote that the trial was “a modern lynching,” falsely indicating that Floyd died of a drug overdose.

He also posted content about the “Great Reset”– the sprawling conspiracy theory that global elites are using coronavirus to usher in a new world order in which they gain more power and oppress the masses. And he complained that politicians making promises to try to win votes “are offering you bribes in exchange for your further enslavement.”
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Alleged Paul Pelosi attacker posted multiple conspiracy theories | CNN Politics

The man who allegedly attacked House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband early Friday posted memes and conspiracy theories on Facebook about Covid vaccines, the 2020 election and the January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol, and an acquaintance told CNN that he seemed "out of touch with reality."
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The Thriller said:
So easily predictable. More right wing violence provoked by irresponsible and unhinged propaganda and conspiracy spewed by top leaders of the GOP. This rhetoric spewed everyday by Republicans on Fox News and in DC is just so toxic. What can be done to turn down the heat? Is there a line that will be crossed that will finally end this irresponsible rhetoric? I thought Jan 6 might be a wake up call yet inflammatory rhetoric on tv, social media, and political parties has only continued to become more extreme, resulting in very real violence.




www.cnn.com

Alleged Paul Pelosi attacker posted multiple conspiracy theories | CNN Politics

The man who allegedly attacked House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband early Friday posted memes and conspiracy theories on Facebook about Covid vaccines, the 2020 election and the January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol, and an acquaintance told CNN that he seemed "out of touch with reality."
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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Here's a wonderfully heartfelt statement from a Republican about the attack:

While stumping for GOP House candidate Yesli Vega in Virginia’s 7th District, Youngkin, also a Republican, told the crowd: “Speaker Pelosi’s husband had a break-in last night in their house, and he was assaulted. There’s no room for violence anywhere, but we’re gonna’ send her back to be with him in California. That’s what we’re going to go do.”
 
They put in the expected effort to spin the narrative, but it didn’t age well…




Paraphrasing, then: If this wasn’t a function of politics, it is an act of heinous violence that represents precisely the sort of horrible, surging crime that Fox News has been warning its viewers about endlessly for weeks. If it was a function of politics — presumably politics that cast Pelosi negatively — then it’s simply division, something that lamentably reflects our nation’s sad state under Biden.

It is admittedly hard to speak off-the-cuff on television, though this is DeAngelis’s job. But again, her arguments did not occur in isolation. They were just one early segment. You can also see Fox News hosts and guests downplaying the “where is Nancy” question, blaming the city’s politics and, of course, somehow, “defund the police.”

Where DeAngelis landed, though, is precisely where you’d expect a Fox commentator to land. If it wasn’t politically motivated, it’s because of the crime wave and therefore the Democrats’ fault. If it was, it’s because Biden didn’t unite America … and therefore the Democrats’ fault.

A simple, effective formula.
 
Gameface said:
Here's a wonderfully heartfelt statement from a Republican about the attack:

While stumping for GOP House candidate Yesli Vega in Virginia’s 7th District, Youngkin, also a Republican, told the crowd: “Speaker Pelosi’s husband had a break-in last night in their house, and he was assaulted. There’s no room for violence anywhere, but we’re gonna’ send her back to be with him in California. That’s what we’re going to go do.”
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Just amazing. I remember stupid voters thought he was a moderate because he wore a sweater.

What the **** are we even doing here? This is leadership? This is where conservatism in America wants to go? Fox News and Republican leaders are actively working to incite violence and shred the connective tissue of our society. And for what? Money? Power?
 
Red said:
They put in the expected effort to spin the narrative, but it didn’t age well…




Paraphrasing, then: If this wasn’t a function of politics, it is an act of heinous violence that represents precisely the sort of horrible, surging crime that Fox News has been warning its viewers about endlessly for weeks. If it was a function of politics — presumably politics that cast Pelosi negatively — then it’s simply division, something that lamentably reflects our nation’s sad state under Biden.

It is admittedly hard to speak off-the-cuff on television, though this is DeAngelis’s job. But again, her arguments did not occur in isolation. They were just one early segment. You can also see Fox News hosts and guests downplaying the “where is Nancy” question, blaming the city’s politics and, of course, somehow, “defund the police.”

Where DeAngelis landed, though, is precisely where you’d expect a Fox commentator to land. If it wasn’t politically motivated, it’s because of the crime wave and therefore the Democrats’ fault. If it was, it’s because Biden didn’t unite America … and therefore the Democrats’ fault.

A simple, effective formula.
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Local arsonist tells the fire dept that he’ll get to the bottom of the recent span of fires.

For two years now we’ve seen calls for unity while republicans and Fox News especially, work against any attempt for unity.
 
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For some insight on how the rank and file GOP voters are handling this story, I present some texts from a few members of my family:

"The dude swings both ways and had a bone to pick with Paul P. Maybe Paul wasn't paying him enough‍♂️"

"Who was the big dem money guy in California that had young black guys come over for sex and had several OD at his house? These people all run in the same circles. For crying out loud, you have Harvey Weinstein boinking the current Governors wife. These Cali Dems are twisted dude and your thinking it's all some Q anon wound up over who knows."

"I'm guessing all the recent stuff is fake Democrat propaganda - the story got away from them ala Jussie when they didn't scrub his background well enough"

Basically, they believe this was the result of a "grindr date gone wrong" and that the democrats invented the attacker's online persona in an attempt at some kind of october surprise.

They also seem confused about how the attacker got a hammer (really difficult to get your hands on these days I guess). Just very normal reactions to have.
 
Zombie said:
For some insight on how the rank and file GOP voters are handling this story, I present some texts from a few members of my family:

"The dude swings both ways and had a bone to pick with Paul P. Maybe Paul wasn't paying him enough‍♂️"

"Who was the big dem money guy in California that had young black guys come over for sex and had several OD at his house? These people all run in the same circles. For crying out loud, you have Harvey Weinstein boinking the current Governors wife. These Cali Dems are twisted dude and your thinking it's all some Q anon wound up over who knows."

"I'm guessing all the recent stuff is fake Democrat propaganda - the story got away from them ala Jussie when they didn't scrub his background well enough"

Basically, they believe this was the result of a "grindr date gone wrong" and that the democrats invented the attacker's online persona in an attempt at some kind of october surprise.

They also seem confused about how the attacker got a hammer (really difficult to get your hands on these days I guess). Just very normal reactions to have.
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Yep.
We may just be completely ****ed people.
If we can't agree on what reality is to at least some reasonable degree then there is no way to reconcile anything.
I want to live in reality. I want to live in a society that lives in reality.
If that's not possible then I, a non-conservative, non-Trumper, will be obliged to acquire the same types of firearms the fantasy land idiots have been stockpiling. It might be surprising to them but it isn't any harder for me to buy guns than it is for them.
If they want a civil war they are in for the same kind of wake-up call that Putin has been treated to.
****ing insane.
 
Gameface said:
Yep.
We may just be completely ****ed people.
If we can't agree on what reality is to at least some reasonable degree then there is no way to reconcile anything.
I want to live in reality. I want to live in a society that lives in reality.
If that's not possible then I, a non-conservative, non-Trumper, will be obliged to acquire the same types of firearms the fantasy land idiots have been stockpiling. It might be surprising to them but it isn't any harder for me to buy guns than it is for them.
If they want a civil war they are in for the same kind of wake-up call that Putin has been treated to.
****ing insane.
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In Homage to Catalunya and subsequent essays on his experience in Spain Orwell beings to tease out the end of anything resembling a meta narrative and attempts on both left and right to fictionalise events. Some consider this to be one of the first time a thinker was identifying the emergency of the post modern world. The right are living in a world of absolute fiction, divorced completely from simple spin into actually fiction and I don't see where it actually ends. In Australia aspects of the mainstream conservative political party tried to do a bit of far right republican lite, and the Liberals were basically wiped out in the election. They lost massive chunks of their metropolitan vote in Melbourne and Sydney to conservative independents they may be in the political wilderness for quite a generation.

In the UK if an election was held today the Tory Party would almost cease to exist.

But you American's are ****ed, decent people need to stop supporting the republican party, they are endorsing somebody who is an actual threat to democracy.
 
The Thriller said:
Irresponsible and irredeemable. Party of deplorables


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Damn. Guy had an anti-government manifesto on him, as well as a hit list of other politicians to be rubbed out. But the clown Aaron Rupar quoted wondered why he was not treated like anybody else who slammed somebody on the skull with a hammer. Unbelievable….
 
I think this is less a symptom of a populace brainwashed by political demonization and more of a mentally sick person angry at life. Perhaps he's taking his frustration out on those who have contributed to inflation?

I'd even venture a theory that this less to do with political demonization and more to do with the ease of committing violent crime and the frustration built up by a congress that doesn't even seem to care that its approval rating has been in the toilet for years.

Simple solution to all of this might be for politicians to start actually listening to constituents and actually place basic crime enforcement that most other countries have been using for decades?

We might be reaching a tipping point. Desperate Americans have been told to "eat cake" while inflation has skyrocketed. Even though most are frustrated with washington's indifference but don't resort to violence, Perhaps this individual felt it was time for a democrat to get the hammer?

It's a shame that some people are trying to make this a political issue.
 
infection said:
I think this is less a symptom of a populace brainwashed by political demonization and more of a mentally sick person angry at life. Perhaps he's taking his frustration out on those who have voted to take away his rights?

I'd even venture a theory that this less to do with political demonization and more to do with the ease of committing violent crime and the frustration built up by a congress that doesn't even seem to care that its approval rating has been in the toilet for years.

Simple solution to all of this might be for politicians to start actually listening to constituents and actually place basic crime enforcement that most other countries have been using for decades?

We might be reaching a tipping point. Desperate Americans have been told to "eat cake" while crime has skyrocketed. Even though most are frustrated with washington's indifference but don't resort to violence, Perhaps this individual felt it was time for a democrat to get the hammer?

It's a shame that some people are trying to make this a political issue.
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Don't we have more people incarcerated than any other country by a huge margin? (I could be wrong but I think I read something talking about our incarceration rates and we lead the world by a lot)
 
i think brushing this off as a “mentally ill person” does a tremendous disservice as we’re ignoring key factors in our society that are radicalizing people into doing horrible things.


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And you combine it with Fox News and major GOP candidates/leaders showing this type of “sympathy”:

View: https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1586060529767956481?s=46&t=bFEoHhpc8n97AZmn-SocKg


And we shouldn’t act surprised when this happens.

The guy was drowning in RW sludge. Then again, we shouldn’t make it sound like his beliefs were outliers. I mean, he sounds like just your average Fox News viewer or Republican running for office. Right?
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infection said:
I think this is less a symptom of a populace brainwashed by political demonization and more of a mentally sick person angry at life. Perhaps he's taking his frustration out on those who have contributed to inflation?

I'd even venture a theory that this less to do with political demonization and more to do with the ease of committing violent crime and the frustration built up by a congress that doesn't even seem to care that its approval rating has been in the toilet for years.

Simple solution to all of this might be for politicians to start actually listening to constituents and actually place basic crime enforcement that most other countries have been using for decades?

We might be reaching a tipping point. Desperate Americans have been told to "eat cake" while inflation has skyrocketed. Even though most are frustrated with washington's indifference but don't resort to violence, Perhaps this individual felt it was time for a democrat to get the hammer?

It's a shame that some people are trying to make this a political issue.
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So lets say you have a mentally sick person angry at life. Lets say they think the earth if flat, the cdc is in bed with bill gates and is out to get them with vaccines filled with tracking devices that also are designed to lower the population. They believe jews control space lazers. They think windmills cause cancer. They are afraid of 5g cell phones. They think there is a secret deep state cabal of childrens blood drinking pedophiles. They believe that their neighbors who vote differently than them are anti american socialist marxists. They think their guns are being taken away from them and their children are being forced to become trans (even though neither thing is actually happening to them). They think there was a stolen election. They think trump is an honest, good, kind, compassionate, law abiding, selfless man who cares about his country more than himself. They think that their vehicle that they drive is being taken away from them and they are being forced to drive an electric vehicle. You know, your typical mentally sick person angry at life.

Lets say this mentally sick person angry at life watches tucker carlson and is a huge huge fan who believes everything he says and tucker tells this mentally sick person that democratic politicians are responsible for all of the above. That democrats are intentionally trying to destroy the country and their way of life. That democrats are the enemy. This mentally sick person hears about how nancy pelosi tried to make trump supporters look bad by sending a bunch of antifa agents to storm the capital and terrorize congress on january 6th. Everything is her and the evil democrats fault.

Maybe that mentally sick person angry at life is nudged just enough to take action. IDK
 
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The Thriller said:
i think brushing this off as a “mentally ill person” does a tremendous disservice as we’re ignoring key factors in our society that are radicalizing people into doing horrible things.


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And you combine it with Fox News and major GOP candidates/leaders showing this type of “sympathy”:

View: https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1586060529767956481?s=46&t=bFEoHhpc8n97AZmn-SocKg


And we shouldn’t act surprised when this happens.

The guy was drowning in RW sludge. Then again, we shouldn’t make it sound like his beliefs were outliers. I mean, he sounds like just your average Fox News viewer or Republican running for office. Right?
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That whole "Where is nancy" thing makes it seem less like a random crazy person attack and much more specific attack on a target. I dont think it was a random target with the person looking for "nancy"
Maybe it was a different nancy the attacker was looking for though and it was just coincidence. IDK
 
If voters have a low approval of congress right now when some things actually pass, imagine how much worse it’ll be with a split congress.

The GOP controlled House with MTG acting as shadow speaker cutting aid to Ukraine, attempting to cut social security and Medicare, attempting to institute national abortion bans, shutting down the government, and impeaching Biden once a month while Democrats hold the Senate and White House…

That’ll be real productive! For sure raise Congress’s approval rating!
 
fishonjazz said:
Don't we have more people incarcerated than any other country by a huge margin? (I could be wrong but I think I read something talking about our incarceration rates and we lead the world by a lot)
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Right. And crime “has skyrocketed” isn’t accurate at all. Although, Fox News wants to make its viewers think that “all crime” has “skyrocketed” and it’s the fault of Democrats like Pelosi… BLM… and the Spanish speaking brown horde bringing pain killers to America and forcing white rural people to become addicted to them
 
infection said:
I think this is less a symptom of a populace brainwashed by political demonization and more of a mentally sick person angry at life. Perhaps he's taking his frustration out on those who have contributed to inflation?
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To be clear, your description of "mentally sick" also describes the OathKeepers, the Proud Boys, Utah Senator Mike Lee, Georgia Rep. Green, and a host of other people who have enormous frustation, and continue to direct it at politicians as opposed to employee shortages and supply chain disruptions.

infection said:
It's a shame that some people are trying to make this a political issue.
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The attacker left behind a politically-motivated explanation of his actions. What does it take for you to think actions are politically motivated?
 
The Thriller said:
Right. And crime “has skyrocketed” isn’t accurate at all. Although, Fox News wants to make its viewers think that “all crime” has “skyrocketed” and it’s the fault of Democrats like Pelosi… BLM… and the Spanish speaking brown horde bringing pain killers to America and forcing white rural people to become addicted to them
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Ya, problems are much much more helpful to republicans right now than solutions or any good things in the country so problems are all they want to talk about and of course they will exaggerate to create as much fear and anger as possible.
Fear and anger are what the GOP are using to try to win elections currently. And it seems to be working. Violence is just an acceptable side effect of winning elections.
 
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