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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...wners-approve-national-anthem-policy-for-2018

The NFL will enact a national anthem policy for 2018 that requires players and league personnel on the sideline to stand but gives them the option to remain in the locker room if they don't want to stand, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announced Wednesday.

Under the change approved by team owners at the Spring League Meeting, individual clubs will have the power to set their own policies to ensure the anthem is being respected during any on-field action. If a player chooses to protest on the sideline, the NFL will fine the team. The player also could be fined by his team, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport and NFL Network's Judy Battista reported.

Goodell said the six changes under the policy were unanimously approved by team owners who voted. San Francisco 49ers owner Jed York said he abstained from voting, in part, due to the lack of player involvement in the decision process.

"The policy adopted today was approved in concert with the NFL's ongoing commitment to local communities and our country -- one that is extraordinary in its scope, resources, and alignment with our players," Goodell said in a statement. "We are dedicated to continuing our collaboration with players to advance the goals of justice and fairness in all corners of our society.

"It was unfortunate that on-field protests created a false perception among many that thousands of NFL players were unpatriotic. This is not and was never the case."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins, one of the leaders of the Players Coalition, expressed his displeasure with the policy Wednesday.

"What NFL owners did today was thwart the players' constitutional rights to express themselves and use our platform to draw attention to social injustices like racial inequality in our country. Everyone loses when voices get stifled," Jenkins said in a statement.

"While I disagree with this decision, I will not let it silence me or stop me from fighting. The national conversation around race in America that NFL players forced over the past two years will persist as we continue to use our voices, our time and our money to create a more fair and just criminal justice system, end police brutality and foster better educational and economic opportunities for communities of color and those struggling in this country.

"For me, this has never been about taking a knee, raising a fist or anyone's patriotism but doing what we can to effect real change for real people. #thefightcontinues."

Jenkins' teammate, Eagles defensive end Chris Long, also released a statement on Twitter regarding the decision.

"This is fear of a diminished bottom line. It's also fear of a president turning his base against a corporation. This is not patriotism. Don't get it confused. These owners don't love America more than the players demonstrating and taking real action to improve it. It also lets you, the fan, know where our league stands.

I will continue to be committed to affecting change with my platform. I'm someone who's always looked at the anthem as a declaration of ideals, including the right to peaceful protest. Our league continues to fall short on this issue."

The NFL Players Association says it was not consulted about the new policy before owners voted on it.

Goodell said he plans to talk to the NFLPA directly about the anthem policy changes the league has adopted.

"Anything I have to say to the union, I'll say to them directly," Goodell said during a news conference. "I do that all the time. So I'd be more than happy to do that, but I will do that to them directly. But there have been incredible engagement with the players. We've talked to tens if not hundreds of players about this over the last year or so to get their input, to understand their position and, again, to respect them as I think we've stated here."

Vice President Mike Pence reacted to the news Wednesday on Twitter writing, "#Winning".

Speaking to NFL Network's Steve Wyche, York said he sent a text message to Richard Sherman -- an active NFLPA leader -- while the policy was being discussed by team owners to let him know what he thought the outcome would be. York added that the 49ers also might halt concession sales at Levi's Stadium during the playing of the national anthem, saying that he didn't think the team should "profit" during that time.

The change comes after players throughout the league chose not to stand during the anthem prior to the start of games during the 2017 season. The protests, which started in 2016 when Colin Kaepernick took a knee during the anthem to draw awareness to issues of social inequality against minorities, became a central issue for the NFL after President Trump criticized the movement during a speech last September, stating players should be fired for not standing.

After discussing the topic at length with team owners at the Fall League Meeting last year, Goodell said the NFL wouldn't force players to stand for the national anthem even though the league believed they should stand. That stance was modified Wednesday.

"To make a decision that strong you would hope the players would have input on it, but obviously not, so we have to deal with it as players," Browns quarterback Tyrod Taylor said about the policy. "Not a good or a bad thing but at the end of the day they call the shots and make the rules. So that's something we have to abide by. I think the main thing out of all of it is that each ballclub has an open communication between the players and the ownership on the issues that are going on in the community and trying to change it."

Off the field, the league has made a push to address social issues important to players. Working in conjunction with the Players Coalition, the league stepped up its efforts to support players on social issues important to them, dedicating $89 million to efforts combating social inequality.

"We think that we've come up with a balanced process here and the procedure in policy that will allow those players who feel that they can't stand for the anthem to stay in the locker room and there's no penalty for that," Goodell said. "But we are going to encourage all of them to be on the field. We'd like all of them to be on the field and stand at attention."
 
I'm uncomfortable with people being forced to stand at attention for the national anthem. It makes me wonder why we are so insistent that anyone who lives in this country must express patriotism or be ostracized. I'm jumping to Godwin's Law early, but the only other countries who are so extreme about forced patriotism are dictator-led regimes. Heil Hitler, indeed. It make you wonder if our forced patriotism will be extended to the fans at the game at some point. Will we be thrown out of the game if we aren't standing at attention during the anthem? Extreme, I know.
 
Yay, Trump weighs in to back up my unease.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...-shouldnt-be-in-us/ar-AAxJHSz?ocid=spartanntp

President Donald Trump praised an NFL policy banning kneeling during the "The Star-Spangled Banner," saying that "maybe you shouldn't be in the country" if you don't stand for the anthem.

Trump spoke to "Fox & Friends" in an interview that aired Thursday. The policy forbids players from sitting or taking a knee on the field during the anthem but allows them to stay in the locker room. Any violations of the new rules would result in fines against teams.

"I think that's good," Trump said in the interview that taped Wednesday. "I don't think people should be staying in the locker rooms, but still I think it's good. You have to stand proudly for the national anthem. Or you shouldn't be playing, you shouldn't be there. Maybe you shouldn't be in the country."

Trump told confidants Wednesday that he was thrilled with the NFL's new policy, believing it vindicated his move last fall to call out the players who kneeled while suggesting that he planned to call attention to it again when the season starts in September, just months before the midterm elections, according to a person familiar with the president's conversations but not authorized to discuss them privately.

Trump first seized upon the issue last September when called on team owners to fire players who followed former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick's lead by kneeling during the national anthem. During a September rally, he referred to an NFL player making a gesture during "The Star-Spangled Banner" as a "son of a bitch" who should be fired.

The president's comments spurred a national conversation about patriotism and the nation's symbols and the use of peaceful protest. Trump, meanwhile, told Republican allies that he thought the culture war issue was good for his base even as he received some criticism for seemingly being more focused on the anthem flap last fall than the government's response to a deadly hurricane in Puerto Rico.

Trump said in the Fox interview that he thought "the people" pushed for the new policy.

"I brought it out. I think the people pushed it forward," Trump said. He added: "you know, that's something ideally could have been taken care of when it first started, it would have been a lot easier, but if they did that, they did the right thing."
 
Nothing new in this, athletes like poor people in general are to be seen seen and not heard, unless they reinforce the power structure that oppresses them and other workers.

This sort of fascist crap has been going on since the first Olympics, when are these people going to learn that their rights as human beings only exist when they don't use them?
 
Is dropping pants and raising both middle fingers respectful to the flag? Or should I be switching my routine?
 
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This is a ****ing joke. When I saw the headline I initially thought and hoped they had gotten rid of the anthem before games altogether.
 
I like Steve Kerr's take:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nb...ism-scaring-people/ar-AAxL5O2?ocid=spartanntp

Golden State Warriors head coach Steve Kerr called the NFL's new national anthem policy "idiotic" while talking with reporters ahead of Game 5 of the Western Conference Finals.

Under the new NFL policy, NFL owners voted to allow NFL comissioner Roger Goodell to discipline any league personnel who does not stand and show respect for the flag and national anthem before games. Players are given the option to remain in the locker room if they prefer not to be on the field for the anthem. Teams will have the option to fine any team personnel or players that attempt to sit, kneel or protest during the anthem.

Kerr is no stranger to speaking out against President Donald Trump and has supported NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick's decision to kneel during the national anthem. In October 2017, Kerr told the Pod Save America podcast that he believes Kaepernick is being blackballed by NFL teams.

"It's just typical of the NFL," Kerr said, according to Anthony Slater of The Athletic. "They're just playing to their fanbase. Basically just trying to use the anthem as fake patriotism, nationalism, scaring people. It's idiotic. But thats how the NFL has conducted their business. I'm proud to be in a league that understands patriotism in America is about free speech and peacfully protesting. Our leadership in the NBA understands when the NFL players were kneeling, they were kneeling to protest police brutality, to protest racial inequality. They weren't disrespecting the flag or military. But our president decided to make it about that and the NFL followed suit, pandered to their fanbase, created this hysteria. It's kind of what's wrong with our country right now – people in high places are trying to divide us, divide loyalties, make this about the flag as if the flag is something other than it really is – which is a representation of what we're about, which is diversity, peaceful protests, right to free speech. It's ironic actually."

President Trump went on FOX News on Thursday morning to commend the NFL for "doing the right thing."
 
The Armed Forces have deals with the NFL for certain things. They can't just eliminate the Anthem. Moreover, these guys are employees. We can sit and cry foul but the bottom line is, their employers are protecting their bottom line, a bottom line that ironically pays these players so damn much, and if the players don't like it, they can bite their tongue and protest and/or stand up for equality in other ways, on their own time. Or they can play in the CFL.
 
They are not being forced to stand. They are given the option of being off the field.
What needs to be considered is the NFL is nothing more than a business. The people in charge have to worry about their bottom line. Sponsors were going away. Is that related to the anthem protests? It’s the easy correlation.
As a business owner I demand my employees work while on the clocks. If they want to protest, they can do it on their own time. It’s no different here.
 
They are not being forced to stand. They are given the option of being off the field.
What needs to be considered is the NFL is nothing more than a business. The people in charge have to worry about their bottom line. Sponsors were going away. Is that related to the anthem protests? It’s the easy correlation.
As a business owner I demand my employees work while on the clocks. If they want to protest, they can do it on their own time. It’s no different here.
So the nfl’s response is to exclude the players union, not even talk to them or help them find another way. The protest was dying down, I’m not even sure anyone would protest, now the other side of the nfl fan base is threatening to boycott the nfl, and the discussion has ramped back up, I even read that a few players would now like to strike till Kaepernick and Reed get signed, and I guess they are trying to get more players to join, it was from bleacher report, so who knows how real that is.

By pulling this the nfl showing they don’t care, all this will do is continue to drag the shield in the mud and hurt their bottom line.
 
By pulling this the nfl showing they don’t care, all this will do is continue to drag the shield in the mud and hurt their bottom line.
Maybe. One thing to consider is that the owners are a bunch of rich conservative old dudes. They don't like the "protests" about things like cops and country.
 
It’s not just another business tho - there is an entire nation watching. OTOH, the whole world doesn’t watch Joe Schmoe do his accounting. Sure, they can’t scrap the anthem beforehand because the people behind all that stuff are more important/powerful. They set it all up with their forefathers power.
 
Just heard Pres Trump dis-invited the eagles for their white House visit because a few players aren’t coming due to the anthem thing.

I’m guessing the same thing will happen after the Warriors sweep the Cavs. I guess the days of champs going to the White House is over for at least a couple more years if not more. Lol. To me this feels like a campaign move more then anything. There are players that wanted to go, why not let them come?
 
Just heard Pres Trump dis-invited the eagles for their white House visit because a few players aren’t coming due to the anthem thing.

I’m guessing the same thing will happen after the Warriors sweep the Cavs. I guess the days of champs going to the White House is over for at least a couple more years if not more. Lol. To me this feels like a campaign move more then anything. There are players that wanted to go, why not let them come?

Douche in Chief won't invite the Warriors to the WH this year. They already told him where to shove that invitation last year.
 
So Donald had a lil party for himself today instead of having the Eagles come over. This is pretty funny. He sings like I do during church!

 
So Donald had a lil party for himself today instead of having the Eagles come over. This is pretty funny. He sings like I do during church!



My god he is embarrassing to our country
 
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