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PearlWatson said:
You know it is true.

They'll probably have state wide ward fasts come October.
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I'm afraid you're wrong this time. I know a lot of Mormons who won't vote for Mitt, and a lot who will. It is true that the LDS Church gave out messages from the leaders encouraging them to go to the caucuses this year. Oh, they did it without mentioning Mitt or the Republican party specifically, like they were encouraging good citizenship in a non-partisan way. But in the inside track the leaders are pulling for Mitt and Hatch, and the word is getting around on a personal basis. This did indeed have a major impact at the caucuses, and gave Hatch a big boost.

The fact that organizations like the Deseret News and KSL radio/TV have been for sixty years headed by members of the CFR-connected Salt Lake Committee on Foreign Relations would cause cognitive dissonance among very conservative faithful LDS members, and in my opinion Mormons who are members of organizations like that which covertly undermine the US Constitutional government in favor of top-down, undemocratic world governance schema through multilateral or UN governance mechanisms which people cannot vote on means they should be excommunicated for their membership in such evil undemocratic and anti-human liberty semi-secret organizations. Yeah, you can get invited to attend a meeting/dinner/speech , but you have to promise to follow their rule of "non-attribution" meaning you can't say who said what afterwards, ostensibly to promote candid discussions of sensitive issues and prevent the repercussions of being quoted for what you really think, and otherwise gossiped about. In reality it just enables completely false public political posturing and massive deception.

That said, it is stupid to call Orrin Hatch or Mitt Romney Republicans, just as much as it is to call Obama and Harry Reid Democrats. They are only right- and left-handed puppets of the same puppeteer. Ron Paul is not a Republican either, as he is clearly breaking ranks with the Business Party of Rockefeller, Inc and the Federal Reserve bankers, not to mention the Progressive Dependency Party of the Disenfranchised.

Paul alone is even trying to represent the ordinary responsible American, and I think that just demands a clear choice in a brand new political organization. American Independence Party, anyone????
 
babe said:
The fact that organizations like the Deseret News and KSL radio/TV have been for sixty years headed by members of the CFR-connected Salt Lake Committee on Foreign Relations would cause cognitive dissonance among very conservative faithful LDS members, and in my opinion Mormons who are members of organizations like that which covertly undermine the US Constitutional government in favor of top-down, undemocratic world governance schema through multilateral or UN governance mechanisms which people cannot vote on means they should be excommunicated for their membership in such evil undemocratic and anti-human liberty semi-secret organizations.
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Holy run-on sentence Batman!
 
PearlWatson said:
Seriously? If you are going to blame Bush for a Democrat Party sponsored bill there is no where to go from here. Get back to your pot.
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You realize that the executive branch has to pass bills, or they don't become bills. Or more specifically if the Executive branch vetos a bill the bill has to be passed by 2/3rds of both houses. But in this case that is irrelevant because Bush did sign the energy act into law.

Though I guess in your world it is silly to blame the President who actually signs in the bill for the bill passing. I have no idea why that's the case, but for you it is.

Do you really need that basic of a civics lesson?
 
Stoked said:
Then I guess Harry Reid prays for that every night as well. That crap is beneath you Pearl.

Do most Mormons want Mitt to win? Of course. Do all of them? No. Do the ones that all want him to win pray for it? No.
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I don't want to say it wrong, but thanks for the back, Stroked, and, she meant it as a friendly joke.
 
franklin said:
I don't want to say it wrong, but thanks for the back, Stroked, and, she meant it as a friendly joke.
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To be honest I could not tell she was joking. I have literally met people that think things like that about Mormons so I figured Pearl was another. It does not upset me or anything, none of this does, but I will say something if I feel the need. I'm not shy.
 
babe said:
I'm afraid you're wrong this time. I know a lot of Mormons who won't vote for Mitt, and a lot who will. It is true that the LDS Church gave out messages from the leaders encouraging them to go to the caucuses this year. Oh, they did it without mentioning Mitt or the Republican party specifically, like they were encouraging good citizenship in a non-partisan way. But in the inside track the leaders are pulling for Mitt and Hatch, and the word is getting around on a personal basis. This did indeed have a major impact at the caucuses, and gave Hatch a big boost.

The fact that organizations like the Deseret News and KSL radio/TV have been for sixty years headed by members of the CFR-connected Salt Lake Committee on Foreign Relations would cause cognitive dissonance among very conservative faithful LDS members, and in my opinion Mormons who are members of organizations like that which covertly undermine the US Constitutional government in favor of top-down, undemocratic world governance schema through multilateral or UN governance mechanisms which people cannot vote on means they should be excommunicated for their membership in such evil undemocratic and anti-human liberty semi-secret organizations. Yeah, you can get invited to attend a meeting/dinner/speech , but you have to promise to follow their rule of "non-attribution" meaning you can't say who said what afterwards, ostensibly to promote candid discussions of sensitive issues and prevent the repercussions of being quoted for what you really think, and otherwise gossiped about. In reality it just enables completely false public political posturing and massive deception.

That said, it is stupid to call Orrin Hatch or Mitt Romney Republicans, just as much as it is to call Obama and Harry Reid Democrats. They are only right- and left-handed puppets of the same puppeteer. Ron Paul is not a Republican either, as he is clearly breaking ranks with the Business Party of Rockefeller, Inc and the Federal Reserve bankers, not to mention the Progressive Dependency Party of the Disenfranchised.

Paul alone is even trying to represent the ordinary responsible American, and I think that just demands a clear choice in a brand new political organization. American Independence Party, anyone????
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WHAT??????? That can't be so. I'm pretty sure Uckdorf or Monson will get up in semi-annual conference to encourage prayer to take place on behalf of Mitt and V.P. Beck so they can save the constitution from hanging by a thread. Once they defeat the anti-Christ there will be Hallelujah shouts throughout Zion.
Ron Paul will have his place in all of this. He will be rewarded for his part in taking down the evil Santorum from the "whore of all the Earth" church.
 
PearlWatson said:
WHAT??????? That can't be so. I'm pretty sure Uckdorf or Monson will get up in semi-annual conference to encourage prayer to take place on behalf of Mitt and V.P. Beck so they can save the constitution from hanging by a thread. Once they defeat the anti-Christ there will be Hallelujah shouts throughout Zion.
Ron Paul will have his place in all of this. He will be rewarded for his part in taking down the evil Santorum from the "whore of all the Earth" church.
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I clearly see your humorous, mocking tone in that one. I missed it in previous replies. I responded because I have met people that are actually like that.

Carry on.
 
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