Yeah but with the inflation, it's going to be around 5M, should have invested in that.
Oni traded to Thunder
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Okay, but the Jazz now how two roster spots open.
homeytennis
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Here are three names that hit the waiver wire this afternoon: Gabriel Deck by OKC 6'6" averaged 10 ppg for Real Madrid last season, Chandler Hutchison 6'7" by the Suns selected one pick after Grayson Allen in the First round, and Denzel Valentine a first round pick by the Bulls.
gomretat
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And likely nothing to do with money savings. Either a simple move on or some other move they want to make. This kind of money doesn't drive decisions for Ryan Smith.
I did some reading and the Jazz did get $2M cash in the Tucker deal. Not saying it makes that deal justifiable, but it makes more sense looking back at it. The Jazz could have eaten the salary and paid ~$500k for it immediately or stretched the salary over multiple years. Instead they traded a second and came back with $2M. So essentially they traded a an unprotected 2nd rounder for $2.5M. Not great considering that is the cost of a very bad second rounder....but as others have noted money now is better than money later. But they probably lost some dough in the process. At the end of the day they traded their second round pick to not pay $500k and receive $2M instead of paying $500k to keep the pick. Keep in mind, you could probably sell that pick for $2M+ down the road or you know....use it to draft someone. Another way you could think of this is that Jazz got the value of a late second rounder (which could be redeemed any year) for their 2027 unprotected second rounder. That or Ryan Smith just got himself another $2.5M for the road.
The options and consequences were a little bit different this time around. Eating Oni's salary would have cost $2.5 M. In theory they could have lowered that amount to ~$1.1M because the Lakers just did that. So when we talk about money saved, we shouldn't cite the $2.5 M number because it could have been avoided for $1.1M. Details are still coming out, but the trade has been made official and there has been no reports of pick protection and only minimal money coming back to the Jazz. If there's no protections on that pick, the Jazz need to get back about $1.4 M to make it equivalent to the Tucker trade....the slight difference being that CLE helped UTA avoid $500k whereas OKC is helping UTA avoid $1.1 M. If the cash considerations coming back to Utah is the minimum of $110k, they essentially just took $1M+ hit (or the opportunity to use the pick to draft) to pay later versus now.
TL/DR: Jazz got $2.5M in value from CLE for their 2027 2nd round pick, the Jazz have gotten $1.1M + TBD cash considerations in value from OKC.
The options and consequences were a little bit different this time around. Eating Oni's salary would have cost $2.5 M. In theory they could have lowered that amount to ~$1.1M because the Lakers just did that. So when we talk about money saved, we shouldn't cite the $2.5 M number because it could have been avoided for $1.1M. Details are still coming out, but the trade has been made official and there has been no reports of pick protection and only minimal money coming back to the Jazz. If there's no protections on that pick, the Jazz need to get back about $1.4 M to make it equivalent to the Tucker trade....the slight difference being that CLE helped UTA avoid $500k whereas OKC is helping UTA avoid $1.1 M. If the cash considerations coming back to Utah is the minimum of $110k, they essentially just took $1M+ hit (or the opportunity to use the pick to draft) to pay later versus now.
TL/DR: Jazz got $2.5M in value from CLE for their 2027 2nd round pick, the Jazz have gotten $1.1M + TBD cash considerations in value from OKC.
homeytennis
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Oni's getting waived. This trade was for the accountants in luxury tax savings.
Ahh, poor guy. Well...hope he's saving his money.
Huh? Saving cash is literally the only conceivable reason to do this.
homeytennis
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It might be also that the guy just isn't an NBA player.
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Then you just waive him... but we needed the Kash$$$
If it’s not about money, why are we including second round picks rather than just waiving his ***?
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I would love to hear the alternate take lol. We have too many future second rounders laying around the office.... needed to get some storage space?
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Even for this board, the absolute meltdown for salary dumping a guy at the end of the bench and a second round pick six years from now is impressive. Lmaooo
It’s one of the reasons the pros are the pros and we’re asshats on a message board. Of course there’s a good reason for it that only makes sense when you get to those advanced levels. And no, it’s not money. Second round picks are incense you burn on the altar for the gods.
Most comical example yet that this dude simply and actively chooses to be an apologist for the organization no matter what. Would love to see his take on the Favors debacle. Or Udoka. I’m sure it’s here somewhere and quite a treat. Jazz could trade Donovan and Rudy for Ben Simmons and this dude would emerge to lick the orgs jock.
It’s not that. It’s that we manage to find the most difficult ways to solve problems that could have been solved in a myriad of ways with a modicum of foresight that even message board dorks had. It’s like spotting a guy on the road with toilet paper hanging out of his pants. No biggie. But now imagine you find out that guy’s flying the plane you’re on.
Dude. Assets are what make trades happen and the Jazz just dumped one of their few remaining to put some cash in a couple of billionaires wallets. It’s one fewer 2nd to use in a trade to improve the roster. And when you’re down so many, it makes it increasingly worse.
As much as anything, it doesn’t portend an organization really willing to do what it takes to make moves to get over the top.
homeytennis
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The Jazz bought the pick used to draft him so that dollar cost needs to be added to the equation. I actually bought the BS DL was spreading about how valuable second round picks were.